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Bob's Flat-Six 12-14-2006 03:13 PM

WHY... do some drivers do this ?
 
Making a right turn ( in a car/ suv / pu ) they swing to the left before they make their turn.
You know, so if your in the lane to their left and passing, you wonder WTF, are they coming over or what ??

skipdup 12-14-2006 03:20 PM

I notice this everytime I drive. Drive me NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!

scottmandue 12-14-2006 03:25 PM

Drives me nuts too, especially people in tiny economy cars doing it.

HELLO, your not driving a eighteen wheeler!!!:rolleyes:

Rick V 12-14-2006 03:27 PM

NJ is the worst place on the planet for doing this.

stomachmonkey 12-14-2006 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Rick V
NJ is the worst place on the planet for doing this.
That's because they have friggin jughandles and no one knows whether or not to go left to go left or go right to go left till the last second.

I nearly kill entire towns when I have to drive in Jersey.

stomachmonkey 12-14-2006 03:44 PM

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ckissick 12-14-2006 03:49 PM

They're just trying to hit the apex right.

Bob's Flat-Six 12-14-2006 04:23 PM

Maybe these drivers all went to Kramer's hook and ladder driving school ?

Eric Coffey 12-14-2006 04:54 PM

Man, there seems to be even more idiots out there this time of year (holiday shopping season) too.

Here are a few other ultra-annoying driver pet-peeves:

1.) staying in the right lane to go straight (at a red light when you/others need to make a right turn). If you aren't turning right, get at least one lane over if possible!!

2.) When people ride your A$$ or aggressively overtake when you purposely slow for an approaching red light (as to catch the light and not have to stop). This is especially rewarding if you are coming up on a red light where there is nobody in front of you. The guy behind you overtakes and comes to a stop at the light (in the other lane). When the light turns green you are still in gear and accelerate briskly, leaving the other guy in the dust. God I love that!

3.) People who slow down to enter the center turn lane. Just signal, get over, THEN slow for your turn!

4.)Dip$hits who insist on keeping their windows down with their music blaring/bumping at stoplights. I mean did these idiots not get enough attention growing up? "Look at me and my bumpin' stereo yo." If you truly just liked loud music, there would be no reason to have every window in your vehicle rolled all the way down.

5.) Fast lane "stragglers". These are people who think they know the fastest possible speed that others should travel, and/or have no clue of the "slower cars stay right" rule.

6.) Idiots that missed their turn-lane/whatever, flip their signal on, and wedge their car's nose over, blocking 1 or more lanes of thru-traffic. If you made the mistake of not paying attention to where you are going, then go down one street and make a U-turn or whatever it takes to keep traffic flowing. It was your mistake, don't make others pay for it!

OK, idiot-driver rant over for now. :D

many944s 12-14-2006 05:16 PM

Here in the Midwest, we call that a "farmer turn". That way they can make a turn without dumping the corn or beans from the bins behind the tractor! Unfortunately, they do it in their cars too!!

-Nick

Jim Richards 12-14-2006 06:07 PM

On my way to work today (on foot), another pedestrian pulled this manuever, almost banging into me (on his left) as he then swung into a shop on the right. Imy first thought was "stupid driver." :rolleyes:

Tervuren 12-14-2006 06:09 PM

Whats so wrong with it? I do this quite often in the 944 when turning onto other roads. I go to the far side of my lane, then turn in. I make a lot of my right hand turns without touching the brake beforehand. Sometimes though, I take it tighter and slow so I can step it out slightly on exit. EIther way is fun, carrying a lot of speed in is more dangerous, and I've got to have run off and no oncoming traffic just <i>incase</i> something goes wrong.

Tervuren 12-14-2006 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Eric Coffey

1.) staying in the right lane to go straight (at a red light when you/others need to make a right turn). If you aren't turning right, get at least one lane over if possible!!

2.) When people ride your A$$ or aggressively overtake when you purposely slow for an approaching red light (as to catch the light and not have to stop). This is especially rewarding if you are coming up on a red light where there is nobody in front of you. The guy behind you overtakes and comes to a stop at the light (in the other lane). When the light turns green you are still in gear and accelerate briskly, leaving the other guy in the dust. God I love that!

I'm a guilty of #1 on several traffic lights in the area, can blast to the front row from a mid pack or rear position. When I do do this, I'm watching traffic behind me. o many people don't use their blinkers though, its frustrating to me when someone I could of let by turns right without their blinker once the light turned green, if they'de just had their blinker on, I'd of gotten out of their way.

legion 12-14-2006 06:25 PM

In my F150 (extended cab with 6.5' bed), I have to do this pulling onto residential streets because the sidewalk comes to a point at what I would want to be the apex of the turn, and my alternatives are to make a slight left before turning right or to hit oncoming traffic.

john walker's workshop 12-14-2006 06:27 PM

35mph freeway entrance ramp speed, then go way down to the end of the on-ramp before moving onto the freeway.

2 lanes on the entrance ramp. one for high occupancy vehicles. the HO vehicles try to pass you up the ramp, but end up right next to you at the top of the ramp where the 2 lanes merge into one. i tend to move left when i see this coming to prevent a problem. there oughta be a law!

last night a jerk pulled out of a parking space on the right as i was approaching at 40mph, and promptly pulled a u-turn in front of me, then stopped with his azz half way in my lane to avoid a car coming in the other direction. crikey!

Z-man 12-14-2006 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stomachmonkey
That's because they have friggin jughandles and no one knows whether or not to go left to go left or go right to go left till the last second.

I nearly kill entire towns when I have to drive in Jersey.

There you have it -- the reason NJ has a bad rap about driving is because of all the freakin' New York drivers in our state! :eek:

If you'll notice stomachmonkey's location under his avatar - It's NY. :p

Don't like how we drive? Get out of my state, you freakin tourist!
-Z

Yea, I'm off my meds again...

skipdup 12-14-2006 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by legion
In my F150 (extended cab with 6.5' bed), I have to do this pulling onto residential streets because the sidewalk comes to a point at what I would want to be the apex of the turn, and my alternatives are to make a slight left before turning right or to hit oncoming traffic.
That I understand. It's the Camarys that drive me NUTS!!!!!

450knotOffice 12-14-2006 08:02 PM

I think many of these people are trying to hit a late apex. If you look at the age and sex of these drivers, I'll bet you're loking at 18 to 30 year old males who try to take every tun as if they're on a track.

That's just what I've noticed anyway.

CJFusco 12-14-2006 08:02 PM

The one thing that really really drives me nuts lately is the impatient jerk that rolls forward when he THINKS that his red light will be turning green. Sometimes the light doesn't turn green when he thinks it's going to, and he ends up in the middle of the intersection with the oncoming cars trying to take left turns around him.

For some reason I get a big kick out of it when someone rolls forward into an intersection in anticipation of a green light and then has to stop completely and wait... especially when I do it better and drive right past them when the light turns green and my reaction time is 100% better than theirs.

artplumber 12-14-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by skipdup
That I understand. It's the Camarys that drive me NUTS!!!!!
That are no where near their adhesion limits - actually most any car is probably no where near it's adhesion limit during these turns. It is the street after all and not a race track.

Converse is true in TX, where people who have a green light essentially stop before making a right turn.

CJFusco 12-15-2006 06:25 AM

Living in West Hartford over the last year or so, I have seen some of the most bizarre traffic behavior.

For those of you who aren't aware of West Hartford, or Farminton Valley in CT in general, let me explain: money and old people. There is a LOT of money, and a LOT of old people. Entitlement issues run rampant.

In any case, here is some of the most bizarre driving behavior I have witnessed:

In the middle of the day, old lady comes to a red light in the left turn lane. It is a busy intersection, with lots of cars sitting at the light. The lady sits at the red light for about 10 seconds, then out of nowhere decides to take a left turn while the light is still red.

Lady comes to a red light, stops for about 10 sec., looks over at the police cruiser sitting in the parking lot to the left. Rolls through the stop sign. Gets pulled over. As the light turns green and I drive by, I hear her yelling at the cop, "BUT NO-ONE WAS COMING THE OTHER WAY!"

I was driving down route 44 near Bishop's Corner (locals will know what I mean), and there is construction up ahead with about 3 or 4 cops milling about. I am probably going maybe 35mph-ish, with no cars ahead or behind me. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a bald guy, on his cell phone, driving a Jag XJ6 pulls into my lane about 20 feet ahead of me. I have to brake hard, hard enough to squeal the rear tires. Jag guy, still on the phone, floors it, and gets up to what must be about 50mph APPROACHING the construction. The cops look furious. One cop STEPS IN FRONT OF THE JAG and starts screaming at the driver, with the driver visibly arguing back. As a I drive by, smiling, one of the other cops gives me a nod and a smile.

BGCarrera32 12-15-2006 07:00 AM

On rare occasion, if I'm in a double turn lane and am on the inside lane at an intersection and the driver next to me isn't paying attention, I'll flick the wheel just quick enough and short enough to upset the balance of the car...sort of a corner check move.

I saw Button do it to Coulthard in an F1 race once and it spooked Couthard just enough for a split second that he backed off and held his lane :D

Another personal fav is to wait for the tailgater to bring the hot coffee up to their mouth, and then DYNO that brakes for a half second. Totally stupid thing to do but oh so gratifiying when you can get them to dump it in their lap. SmileWavy

svandamme 12-15-2006 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric Coffey

1.) staying in the right lane to go straight (at a red light when you/others need to make a right turn). If you aren't turning right, get at least one lane over if possible!!

y'all have a different lane system then in Europe
over here you could get a ticket for not taking the lane the furthest to the right as possible

that counts on highways, express ways and regular 2 lane roads...

and ultimately it makes sense, if there is ever a ghostrider( dunno the word in english we call em that in Dutch , those who are on the wrong side of the road, going against traffic) you'll have a better chance of not getting hit
and regardless of that , driving to the right clears up the left lanes for faster traffic...

at traffic lights we simply have seperate lanes for those who turn left or right, you arent' allowed to turn right from the left or center lane, can't go left from the center or right lane
and you can't turn from the straight lane... quite simpel really

Bob's Flat-Six 12-15-2006 07:31 AM

Just to be more clear, I'm not talking about a wide turn that's made by a truck. I'm talking about a deliberate blip to the left before turning in.

I drive a truck, 3 Axel about 30ft or so long. I may have to hold the outside of my lane on tight streets, but I don't swing / blip to the left before I turn in. And I keep the rubber off the curbs just fine.

The reason I brought this up was I saw a young girl do it in Calabasas the other day in a Lexus suv. She was tuning right from a stop (rolling) and not close to the curb or anything and blipped the front end out to the left first before turning.
I had to wonder where she picked that up ? Maybe it's stylish driving ?

svandamme 12-15-2006 07:36 AM

i do it for quick turns, but that would only be if i'm the fastest car( since nobody would even get next to me) or if i have the road to myself, no other cars at all

oldE 12-15-2006 07:52 AM

Mostly, it's ignorance:
of the placement of their wheels, (perhaps they scrubbed a curb one time and don't want to do it again),
of their position in the road/lane and
the uneasiness it generates in those around them.

In this age of power steering on darn near everything, there is no excuse for the behavior on most streets and roads. I'm afraid it comes back to poor initial driver education and the feeling many have that it is their right to be where they are and all others should yield to them.

Les

mschuep 12-15-2006 08:16 AM

I hate it when people are on the brakes all the time, but they aren't braking. "fakers" I call them. They really screw up the coasting traffic that can't see around their fat-ass SUV's to see if they are really going to stop, or are just keeping their foot on the brake because it gives them the warm fuzzies.

Superman 12-15-2006 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric Coffey
6.) Idiots that missed their turn-lane/whatever, flip their signal on, and wedge their car's nose over, blocking 1 or more lanes of thru-traffic. If you made the mistake of not paying attention to where you are going, then go down one street and make a U-turn or whatever it takes to keep traffic flowing. It was your mistake, don't make others pay for it!
:D

If they made a mistake, fine. In my view they are entitled to the courtesy of being let in. My problem is with the asshats that think driving and racing are the same thing, and who pretend they didn't know they were in the wrong lane. Fact is, 90%+ of those people just didn't want to get in line with everyone else. I wish the folks in the proper lane would tighten up and make those asshats miss their turns.

stomachmonkey 12-15-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by mschuep
I hate it when people are on the brakes all the time, but they aren't braking. "fakers" I call them. They really screw up the coasting traffic that can't see around their fat-ass SUV's to see if they are really going to stop, or are just keeping their foot on the brake because it gives them the warm fuzzies.
I find most of them are tailgating. Makes me nuts. Back off another 10 feet and everyone is happier.

RM512 12-16-2006 11:01 AM

How about the people that get into a turning lane, come to a stop and THEN turn on their signal.

930addict 12-16-2006 11:05 AM

This just happened to me the other night. I was turning left and some lady in her huge MB swings to the right actually coming into my lane then proceeds to turn. Stupid woman was on her cell phone. I can't stand this either. Its not like they're in a semi and need the extra room. Their in a car for heaven sakes!

Halm 12-16-2006 11:10 AM

Saw a new move several times today: a 20 year old, +/- 4, rolls down his/her window, points to an opening between 2 cars to their left and dares the trailing car to him as he moves over. YIKES!!!


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