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Seahawk 12-22-2006 11:33 AM

Requiem for Nifong
 
What a tool shed:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/12/22/ap.dukelacrosseurgent.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

fastpat 12-22-2006 11:45 AM

That's great news, this story had been gaining "legs" in the National media for some time, which had quite a bit to do with William L. Anderson's persistence, beginning right after it became apparent to almost anyone willing to dig for it that no rape occured, and no other assault occured.

Nifong was reelected last month, so I don't know how this will play out, the wrongly accused should sue him personally since it equally obvious that he's guilty of malfeasance. and denial of rights under color of authority.

Now, what about these "other charges"?

Edit: Just learned that these innocent men are still charged with kidnapping and sexual assault, seems Nifong is still trying to get his pound of flesh.

the 12-22-2006 12:21 PM

This is going to end poorly for Nifong, that's been obvious for some time now.

I'm not entirely sure Nifong is trying to get a pound of flesh anymore, I think his primary concern is finding a way to extricate himself from this mess.

Dropping all of these false charges so close to his re-election might be seen as a bit too obvious. The strategy may be to do it in stages, to give the appearance they were only dropped as a result of continuing investigation and newly discovered facts.

This whole thing has been outrageous, and a real abuse of power and violation of rights. Prosecutors have a lot of discretion and immunity, but I hope at the end of the day, someone goes after this Nifong character in court.

m21sniper 12-22-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Edit: Just learned that these innocent men are still charged with kidnapping and sexual assault, seems Nifong is still trying to get his pound of flesh. [/B]
This entire case is an outrage. It is obvious this 'lady' is a total lying ho, and it was really from about day 1. That he was re-elected is merely an indicator of the abject stupidity of a good chunk of the American sheeple.

It's absolutely no wonder they abuse their power so, look how effin' stoopid we are.

fastpat 12-22-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
This entire case is an outrage. It is obvious this 'lady' is a total lying ho, and it was really from about day 1. That he was re-elected is merely an indicator of the abject stupidity of a good chunk of the American sheeple.
He was reelected by a predomionantly black city, Durham has been that for years. I did my public heath nursing for my degree in Durham. Niforng was playing, not jsut the race card, but the race deck.

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It's absolutely no wonder they abuse their power so, look how effin' stoopid we are.
Indeed.

m21sniper 12-22-2006 04:43 PM

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Pat: He was reelected by a predomionantly black city, Durham has been that for years. I did my public heath nursing for my degree in Durham. Niforng was playing, not jsut the race card, but the race deck.
I know too many stupid white people to ever make the mistake of associating that operating condition with a specific skin tone.

Look at Massachussets. They've re-elected Ted Kennedy about a gillion times, and he drowned a girl and left her to die.

Hell, look at Bush. You'd have a hard time finding 10 brother's that voted for him.

Joeaksa 12-22-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Noah
Nifong is one of the biggest scum bags in the United States of America.

IMHO, he should sit in jail for whatever the sentece is in North Carolina for rape. Tripled.

+1

URY914 12-22-2006 05:58 PM

He pinned his entire career/future on a stripper/hooker that now can't EVEN REMEMBER IF SHE WAS RAPED!

He is toast.

the 12-22-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by URY914
He pinned his entire career/future on a stripper/hooker that now can't EVEN REMEMBER IF SHE WAS RAPED!

He is toast.

His career/future was in trouble no matter what he did. He simply chose the path that prolonged his day of reckoning.

Had he let the case drop prior to the election, he apparently almost certainly would have lost the election and been out of his job. Given the racial makeup of his voters, it would have been too easy for his opponent to paint him as someone who, like G. Bush, doesn't like black people and let some guilty-as-sin guys go because they were rich and white.

fastpat 12-23-2006 07:26 PM

Here's William L. Anderson's response to yesterday's news from the Duke non-rape case.
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Duke: The Lies Continue

by William L. Anderson

In the wake of Durham County District Attorney Michael Nifong’s dropping of rape charges against Collin Finnerty, David Evans, and Reade Seligmann – and keeping the kidnapping and sexual assault charges alive – I believe I need to make some statements about the case where it presently stands, and what to expect in the future.

First, and most important, Nifong dropped the charges not because he had "new evidence," but because the defense found out he had been illegally hiding "old evidence." Nifong had the same information in April that the defense finally received in December, and when it was made public, then the rogue prosecutor immediately claimed that the "victim" now could not remember some of the details of the "rape." Thus, he said he believed he no longer could "prove" rape, so he dropped those charges.

Second, his holding onto the kidnapping and sexual assault charges are also part of the Big Lie he has chosen to promote. Despite the claims by his supporters, like Irvin Joyner, the law professor at North Carolina Central University, that these charges do not require DNA and other such aspects of evidence, the same barriers remain.

First, he has to be able to place Finnerty, Seligmann, and Evans all in the bathroom alone with her at the same time. The evidence clearly does not point to that. Second, as for sexual assault, DNA still will play a role, as not one spec of DNA from the young men was ever found on her, despite the extensive "crime scene" investigation that police and hospital personnel carried out.

Second, the only person making the claim is the accuser herself, Crystal Gail Mangum. She has told a number of very different stories that have changed with each set of questions from investigators who surely from the start knew better than to believe her. This woman is not exactly a credible accuser, having lied to police about her sexual habits prior to the fateful party.

Unfortunately, not everyone is willing to admit the obvious. Take Sports Illustrated writer Lester Munson, who in the wake of the latest news wrote:

They (the defendants) still face some serious charges. There is little doubt that something unsavory happened at the party on March 13. After the dismissal of the rape charges, it will be easier for the accused players to attempt to settle everything with a guilty plea on lesser charges.

Here is a writer who still wants to believe that these "privileged, white" athletes at least attacked the woman even though the other evidence that has come about since last spring makes such an event so unlikely as to be impossible. He does not seem to understand that there is no basis for charges, other than Nifong’s desire to win an election and for the local black community of Durham, as well as a sizeable chunk of the Duke faculty to be able to exercise their prejudices.

However, when one examines the performances of members of the so-called mainstream media (or MSM) such as the New York Times, Washington Post, Newsweek, Sports Illustrated, and the broadcast outlets, one finds that these were the organizations that from the start were the engines publicizing the false charges – and desperately trying to give them credibility. Even now, we see someone from the MSM trying to salvage something out of it.

I predict that this sorry case never will make it to trial, no matter what Munson and his other MSM colleagues believe. Nifong is not going to risk having his entire case rest upon a single witness who has lied from the first moment, and who never had real credibility. He will find a way to drop the other charges – and it will not occur because the players plead to misdemeanors.

The unfortunate thing is that people are going to have the impression that Nifong is a rogue prosecutor whose actions are unlike those of other prosecutors. I disagree, and disagree heartily. Nifong is a product of the mentality that governs the prosecutorial process in the United States today: Just win, and win at all costs.

Nifong may have some explaining to do, but I can guarantee you that he is the proverbial tip of the iceberg. One might hope that Americans will become more skeptical of prosecutors because of this case, but I, for one, continue to say that I am from Missouri.
December 23, 2006

cmccuist 12-24-2006 05:51 AM

The kidnapping charge is also a non-starter. Both of these charges will be dropped in a month or so. Nifong will probably have to resign. What a POS he turned out to be.


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