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fastpat 12-26-2006 07:04 PM

Moonbat, anyone?
 
Anyone reading the exchange between myself and usmellgas2, gasboy, will recognize this sort of challenge in the following post to lewrockwell.blog this very day.
Quote:

I'm a Moonbat
Posted by Anthony Gregory at 01:48 PM

Kevin at Liberty Papers doesn't like my article on radical and moderate libertarianism.

After calling for a fair tax, he asks, "If we got rid of police and courts, what’s to stop me and my gang of 50 from killing the author, raping his wife, enslaving his children, and stealing his property?"

Well, what's to stop that from happening now -- aside from my not having a wife or children? Certainly not the government police and courts. If he and 50 people were determined to kill someone, they most probably could. The question is, is this more likely, and are the victims of crime better off, in a government legal system or a free market one? I believe in the market, not socialism, and so I would think the market solution would work much better. At any rate, it's funny that any libertarians think government is the way to prevent massive gang violence and thuggery, when the most massive gangs of violent thugs — the ones that have been most known to kill, rape, enslave and steal everything from people – are governments.

What's to stop the government from killing or falsly imprisoning you? The libertarian law-enforcement socialist answer is, bizarrely, the government.
Author, Thomas Woods adds:
Quote:

Better a Moonbat than a Bore

Anthony, I know nothing about "Kevin" or that site, but his casual "Nevermind the whole Free Rider Problem" comment is absurd coming from a supposedly libertarian site. There is a gigantic literature within libertarianism on the bogus nature of the "free rider" problem, but this fellow either knows nothing about it or doesn't even think it's worth mentioning. Instead, he just raises this totally conventional, statist bogeyman as if the very mention of "free riding" refuted our position at once. Such a critique of your article is all the vindication you need, if you ask me.
If anyone needs the libertarian literature mentioned by Dr. Woods, be sure to ask. :D

rcecale 12-26-2006 07:20 PM

Re: Moonbat, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fastpat
Anyone reading the exchange between myself and usmellgas2, gasboy, will recognize this sort of challenge in the following post to lewrockwell.blog this very day.
You'll also see that this thread is a very clear example of what I wrote underneath Inability to make decisions regarding paste's attachment to Lew Rockwell and company. :D

Randy

fastpat 12-26-2006 07:30 PM

Re: Re: Moonbat, anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rcecale
You'll also see that this thread is a very clear example of what I wrote underneath Inability to make decisions regarding paste's attachment to Lew Rockwell and company. :D

Randy

Your post hasn't any meaningful commentary in it, if you want to respond with just a sliver of intellectual content, try doing your homework and refuting what I have said.

Anything I've said of import. Correcting typographical errors don't count.

And, no, stating that what you believe is correct "because everybody knows it is correct" won't cut the mustard either.

So far, Randall, you've never posted anything of intellectual merit on this forum. When are you going to begin to do so?

rcecale 12-26-2006 07:43 PM

And this latest post reflects:

Quote:

Originally posted by rcecale
* Indifference to the opinions of others
As stated above, your mindset that YOU are always right and everyone who disagrees with you is ALWAYS wrong.
* A tendency to argue
As stated by numerous other posters, in numerous threads.
* A conviction that you are better than others, or that people are out to get you
'Nuff said![/B]
Keep going, pastie! You'll touch on all of my points in just another two or three posts. SmileWavy

Randy

fastpat 12-26-2006 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rcecale
And this latest post reflects:



Keep going, pastie! You'll touch on all of my points in just another two or three posts. SmileWavy

Randy

Post supporting facts for your post, old boy. In this case, that would mean supporting facts for sociofascist ideology, and your amateur psychology.

rcecale 12-26-2006 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastpat
Post supporting facts for your post, old boy. In this case, that would mean supporting facts for sociofascist ideology, and your amateur psychology.
As I said before, patten, you're as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.


Click here, if you've the ballz. Read the section under "Signs/Symptoms"

Randy

rcecale 12-26-2006 08:00 PM

Symptoms of schizophrenia are divided into two groups: positive and negative. Positive symptoms refer to traits that are "added" to your personality and include a combination of disordered thinking (cognitive impairment) and psychotic symptoms (such as hallucinations).

On this page,, read the little paragraph on Delusions. Sounds an awful lot like you, patten!

Randy

rcecale 12-26-2006 08:11 PM

You may also want to give this page a read.

Don't be discouraged by all of this, patten, all is not lost.

From the above source:

Remember that most people who have schizophrenia have adjusted to the illness and are living productive lives in the community. Much remains to be done, however, to improve services and increase public awareness of the plight faced by patients, their families, and friends. We hope that being able to recognize symptoms and learning how to manage them will reduce fear and lead to greater understanding and acceptance of the schizophrenic person.

Randy

fastpat 12-26-2006 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rcecale
As I said before, patten, you're as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.


Click here, if you've the ballz. Read the section under "Signs/Symptoms"

Symptoms of schizophrenia are divided into two groups: positive and negative. Positive symptoms refer to traits that are "added" to your personality and include a combination of disordered thinking (cognitive impairment) and psychotic symptoms (such as hallucinations).

On this page,, read the little paragraph on Delusions. Sounds an awful lot like you, patten!

Randy

Um, Randall, I've had a clinical rotation in a mental health facility, in a locked men's schizophrenia ward, and studied it waaaaaay more than you've done, which appears to have been a couple of hours today once you saw the green light from gasboy. You haven't a clue about mental health in general, and certainly haven't any idea about those suffering from chemical imbalance. Your attempt to smear me with teenagerish "you're crazy" rhetoric is really pretty pathetic. Your attempts at using scientific jargon is comical, really, and pretty transparent.

Again, refute my posts intellectually, or just sit quietly. Better for you, soon, folks will forget this little episode of yours, dabbling into the world of mental health professionals.

Or continue on, and reveal yourself even more.

rcecale 12-27-2006 05:40 AM

WOW! Just...wow! Aren't you the angry one?

Anyway...here's one for you.

What's the difference between a sane guy's bedpan, a schizophrenic's bedpan, and fastpaste?


(I'll give you the correct answer later. Stay tuned!!! :D

Randy

Jim Richards 12-27-2006 05:53 AM

Randy, whassup? Is your mission just to fuch around with Pat? If you're not interested in his libertarian threads, why not ignore them? I know I do much of the time. This is all very silly, IMO.

:)

Moneyguy1 12-27-2006 09:27 AM

Jim:

+10 1/2

Usmellgass2? 12-27-2006 12:34 PM

Murder, rape, enslavement, theft, wife, childern, the gov / legal system will not be able to stop an attack. Are you trying to make some sort of threat?

nostatic 12-27-2006 12:49 PM

y'all need to get laid...

Superman 12-27-2006 02:04 PM

My college roomate was a guy with a great brain. At that time, mine was sharp also. I am a Catholic and he was an atheist. I am a liberal and he was a libertarian. Imagine the conversations......... It was a wonderful time, intellectually.

Now I find that while libertarianism is not unusual amongst naive but otherwise intelligent and free-thinking young people, it is rare among sane older folks. I have to agree with Randy. Anybody Pasty's age who still clings to this ideology.....cannot hide behind the excuse of naivete'.

Here's an example. Doctor-patient confidentiality. When we're concerned about our drug or alcohol use, we might talk to our doctor, knowing the information will not leave the room. Health care in this country would suffer if doctors were not deadly serious about this responsibility. In Pasties' world, data services and other commercial concerns could buy this information. The remedy would be to sue. yeah, right.

Pastie is comfortable placing all our government's responsibilities into the hands of the.........LEGAL COMMUNITY. Anybody see a down side to that?

But that's not the worst part. The worst part (and I think Randy and I can agree on this as well) is that Patsie's agenda is treachery. He seems to be actively trying to undermine the government of the United States of America.

I've got a real problem with that. I'm a liberal (because I think it's all about people, not money, I guess) and I'l be damned if I'm going to sit still while some schitzo attempts to incite the destruction of my nation's government. I've got a big problem with that.

rcecale 12-27-2006 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Richards
Randy, whassup? Is your mission just to fuch around with Pat? If you're not interested in his libertarian threads, why not ignore them? I know I do much of the time. This is all very silly, IMO.

:)

Well, gee, Jim, maybe this is one of those threads of patten's that you should ignore...n'kay? Thanks! SmileWavy

But seriously, I really could care less about most of what patten posts. My perception of him is very close to the way tobster1911 describes his own, on this page.

Quote:

Originally posted by tobster1911
My problem with Pat has more to do with the complete lack of respect he shows for other posters.

I did have to LOL hard when Pat mysteriously disappeared from this thread and got real quite after Scott's post. After all his ravings against government, (read authority) he is very careful not to upset the governing persons on this board too much...

Further, I find patten's repeated wishing of ill will towards our country's men and women in military service quite disgusting. While I agree that he has the freedom to make these statements, it is in very poor taste to do so. Saying you disagree with the Bush administration policy is one thing, but to call for the death of our own country's servicemembers is utterly disgraceful!

Randy

fastpat 12-28-2006 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rcecale
Further, I find patten's repeated wishing of ill will towards our country's men and women in military service quite disgusting. While I agree that he has the freedom to make these statements, it is in very poor taste to do so. Saying you disagree with the Bush administration policy is one thing, but to call for the death of our own country's servicemembers is utterly disgraceful!
This bizarro post is, unfortunately, rather typical of the bloodthirsty on this forum. They wish for the deaths of tens of thousands in writing right here, then attempt to claim that those opposing their carnage are "disgraceful".

As for myself, I wish for the deaths of no one. I was opposed to the dispatch of US troops to Iraq in the first place, and opposed to the continuance of them in both Iraq and Afghanistan for the full duration of time they've been deployed. My position wouldn't cause the deaths of any American.

But, in the Bizarro-world towards which this forum appears to have turned; those favoring mass death and the destruction of entire countries are the nice guys, those opposed to the same are deathmongers.

fastpat 12-28-2006 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superman
My college roomate was a guy with a great brain. At that time, mine was sharp also. I am a Catholic and he was an atheist. I am a liberal and he was a libertarian. Imagine the conversations......... It was a wonderful time, intellectually.

Now I find that while libertarianism is not unusual amongst naive but otherwise intelligent and free-thinking young people, it is rare among sane older folks. I have to agree with Randy. Anybody Pasty's age who still clings to this ideology.....cannot hide behind the excuse of naivete'.

Here's an example. Doctor-patient confidentiality. When we're concerned about our drug or alcohol use, we might talk to our doctor, knowing the information will not leave the room. Health care in this country would suffer if doctors were not deadly serious about this responsibility. In Pasties' world, data services and other commercial concerns could buy this information. The remedy would be to sue. yeah, right.

Pastie is comfortable placing all our government's responsibilities into the hands of the.........LEGAL COMMUNITY. Anybody see a down side to that?

The above is complete bunk, but expected of a statist. Painting libertarians as naive, childish, and everything else is typical of them, and a lie everytime.

Quote:

But that's not the worst part. The worst part (and I think Randy and I can agree on this as well) is that Patsie's agenda is treachery. He seems to be actively trying to undermine the government of the United States of America.

I've got a real problem with that. I'm a liberal (because I think it's all about people, not money, I guess) and I'l be damned if I'm going to sit still while some schitzo attempts to incite the destruction of my nation's government. I've got a big problem with that.
Of course you agree with Randy, all statist's love force, and using guns to enforce the will of the socialist elite's, something the Soviet did with reletive impunity (see the mass starvation in Ukraine for an example), something that superman would love to do here, given a chance.

So, it should not be a surprise that Supe would fully support Randy's bloodlust, it's endemic to the liberal (aka sociofascist) philosophy, and always has been.

tobster1911 12-28-2006 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastpat
This bizarro post is, unfortunately, rather typical of the bloodthirsty on this forum. They wish for the deaths of tens of thousands in writing right here, then attempt to claim that those opposing their carnage are "disgraceful".

As for myself, I wish for the deaths of no one. I was opposed to the dispatch of US troops to Iraq in the first place, and opposed to the continuance of them in both Iraq and Afghanistan for the full duration of time they've been deployed. My position wouldn't cause the deaths of any American.

But, in the Bizarro-world towards which this forum appears to have turned; those favoring mass death and the destruction of entire countries are the nice guys, those opposed to the same are deathmongers.

[FastPat mode]
Not true, IN FACT you do not give one hoot about the death or destruction of these countries as evidenced in your own post here. You simply care about using it as a tool in your personal "war" (of words) against the established government. Show me one single post where you express the slightest bit of concern for a suffering population that you do not attempt to blame the US government for their problems and I will retract.
[/FastPat mode]
Your position would not cause the deaths of any Americans??? Not a single one? You must be the most absolutely, positively, smartest man on the face of the Earth to be able to make that claim. So if the US practiced Isolationism you are prepared to guarantee that we would have NO military problems or deaths? Wow. Pat for Pres.....

Moneyguy1 12-28-2006 08:35 AM

Perhaps a change of moniker is required..

How does "ex pat" sound?


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