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Hugh R 11-04-2007 04:40 PM

Just saw this thread. Here's mine, an original cafe racer. Except this one isn't a poser. Check out my signature. Its unrestored original.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194226734.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194226755.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194226776.jpg

SLO-BOB 11-04-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 3568951)
Egli-Vincent?

You all know I'm a pokey old Harley rider from way back, but these cafe' racers speak to me. Or a...

How 'bout both! Probably not so pokey tho'. :)

http://www.caferace.com/supermanx2.jpg

SLO-BOB 11-04-2007 04:58 PM

Wow Hugh - very Nice! And I thought it was tough to find parts for my 60s Hondas! Can't imagine sourcing parts for that bike.

http://www.caferace.com/B500CRb.jpg

Jeff Higgins 11-04-2007 05:27 PM

O.k., you guys have gotten me to thinking (that scares the crap out of my wife...). Say a guy wanted to build a cafe' racer on an old Ironhead Sportster. Say it already has a strong motor (Wiseco 10: pistons, Andrews R5 cams, heads by Branch Flowmetrics, S&S Super "E", etc.). Say all he needed was clip-ons, rear sets, and suitable bodywork. Where would he look? I know Stortz Performance has cafe' and flat track parts for modern Evo Sporties, but does anyone have this kind of stuff for the older ones? Seems the cafe' movement kind of left them out. Also seems they would be naturals. I would be starting with this. I've owned this bike for 28 years now...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194229670.jpg

MotoSook 11-04-2007 05:37 PM

They here Jeff :D. You'll wife will love you...and us.

http://www.benjiescaferacer.com/HDsportsterparts.html

http://www.benjiescaferacer.com/site...28-265x190.jpg

MotoSook 11-04-2007 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=Hugh R;3568978]Just saw this thread. Here's mine, an original cafe racer. Except this one isn't a poser. Check out my signature. Its unrestored original.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194226755.jpg
QUOTE]

Wow. Where does one come about owing such a machinery? You don't just walk onto a used car lot in the midwest and find such a thing...Love to hear your story on it.

SLO-BOB 11-04-2007 05:46 PM

Jeff, the Sportster is perfect for such a project. However, imo, it would be a shame to change such a clean looking old Sporty. That said-

http://thekneeslider.com/images/hogbitz.jpg

cafe sporster link-

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/10/22/harley-davidson-sportster-cafe-racer-by-hogbitz/

SLO-BOB 11-04-2007 05:53 PM

awesome Zero (Harley) cafe-

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6...intage1ht6.jpg

Hugh R 11-04-2007 05:53 PM

I inherited from my Dad about 30 years ago. He bought it in 1935 from the guy that raced it for the factory. In 1930, Rudge placed 1st, 2nd, 6th and 7th at the World Cup at the Isle of Man, this is the sixth place bike. Its was my Dad's daily driver through the 30's and 40's. Since it didn't have a generator (or is that gererator?) he hooked a batter and a light onto it to drive at night. I still have the battery case and headlight which were none stock. It runs believe it or not. I took it up to the All British Bike Meet in San Jose in April of last year and it actually won "Best Road Racer" and "Oldest Bike". I put oil/gas and air in the tires and several guys pushed and it started right up. I new it would start because I made sure of that a few days before. In fact after several years of non-use (OK, ten years). I pushed it down my driveway and it actually fired up the second I dumped the compression release. It doesn't have a kick starter. Its a 500 cc single with a four valve head. As a Grand Prix Ulster, it came with a factory guarantee of 100 mph. If you look at the 2nd pic you can see the holes in the side of the tank where the factory converted it from hand-suicide shift to a foot shift. It sas a manual spark advance as one of the levers on the handlebars because they hadn't invented mechanical timing advance yet. The lower front fend support is actually a kickstand and I owned the bike for a number of years until I figured that out. The foot brake contols the front and rear brakes, and can be biased. Its a dry sump engine. There is an active club in England, of which I'm a member.

SLO-BOB 11-04-2007 05:58 PM

Jeff - can't have too many bikes. Leave yours stock and get the facory version 77xlcr-

http://www.ironharley.com/racepics/xlcr/xlcrspmatz.jpg

Jeff Higgins 11-04-2007 06:20 PM

Funny, when I first started riding Sportsters (I went through three between my 16th and 19th birthdays before sticking with the one in the photo) I had a couple of chances to buy XLCR's. They were dirt cheap then and nobody wanted them. I held out for a "real" Sportster. One of my room mates had one, and was actually kind of ashamed he couldn't afford a "real" Sportster. Just amazing... The best bike H-D was building at the time, and absolutely rejected by us bunch of knuckleheads.

Anyway, thanks for the links, guys. I'll check them out. This might be kind of fun... If I go anywhere with this, you can bet I'll stash all of the origninal parts that come off. I still have the original seat, bars, big ugly plastic gauges, crappy old Bendix carb, and everything else I have removed or replaced over the years. Someday this old pig might actually be worth something... In the meantime, I'll keep having fun with it.

MotoSook 11-04-2007 06:21 PM

Thanks for the story Hugh. Great history!


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...b1/SRKZ004.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...b1/SRKZ003.jpg

Hugh R 11-04-2007 07:22 PM

Souk,

Is that yours? That's very cool

MotoSook 11-04-2007 07:50 PM

Hugh, that's not mine. It's a KZ400. Here's the thread I found it in:

http://www.armbell.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3429&postdays=0&postorder=asc&star t=0&sid=42ca1ac7c5a70c4e5c3c7fc05c8818b4&mforum=kz 400

dd74 11-04-2007 08:46 PM

I'm really digging this thread. The bikes are gorgeous; they're the sort of stuff a road cyclist likes.

So I have a question: if I wanted to build a cafe racer, where do I start? What's a good bike to start with? Four stroke? Two stroke? A modern motorcycle or something older?

SmileWavy

Jim Bremner 11-04-2007 09:18 PM

Slo-bob


anymore info on that silver bike?

SLO-BOB 11-05-2007 04:11 AM

DD74 - That's the cool thing about Cafe racers. You can start with pretty much anything. Check out that KZ Souk posted. Beautiful and who'd a thunk it? Naturally, there are some bikes that lend to the conversion more readily. Check out the Benjies site -

http://www.benjiescaferacer.com/home.html

that will give you an idea as to what bikes have parts (somewhat) available. The Honda CBs are a natural as they are plentiful, cheap, and reliable. I have 2bikes I'm considering a conversion on - the 66 CB160 pictured above which is a very common cafe base, and a 75 CL360. Not as common but parts are available and I think the upswept pipes will look very cool straight and wrapped.

Jim - Do you mean the Borile?

http://www.caferace.com/borile.html

MotoSook 11-05-2007 06:14 PM

Bob's right, David. You can start with most any old bike (obviously a chopper won't be easy w/o cutting frame. etc). Old standard bikes are good starts. Then just strip it, slap some clip-ons on the thing (or something that makes you ride forward and low), cut the pipes (make it loud) then go get some old leathers :). CB's are probably most common cafe racers since there are lots of shops making stuff for them...(a chicken and egg thing really). They don't have to be big bikes to be fun. I've had an 80cc and a 250cc motorcycles before, and I probably had more fun tearing around on those.

SLO-BOB 11-05-2007 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Souk (Post 3571194)
They don't have to be big bikes to be fun. I've had an 80cc and a 250cc motorcycles before, and I probably had more fun tearing around on those.

Right on! My CB160 is one of the funnest bikes I've ever owned, and one of the smallest. I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, but it's addicting. I'm 6'-5" and my wife says I look like an idiot on it. Know what? I don't care. I'm not alone either. There's tons of big guys riding around on little bikes.

cb160 cafe racers on the track-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_o07_Hg53U

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6...2029491cc2.jpg

chewie 12-01-2007 11:55 AM

some cool cafe's in here - i think i'm gonna get a project on the go

btw - heres the real candy cane

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1196542339.jpg
one of my favs

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1196542385.jpg

and one more...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1196542442.jpg

probably been listed on this thread, but i mostly just looked at the pics so here it is again, if its again??

more @ http://indian.no/
click on caferacers - theres a good half hour to spend thereSmileWavy


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