hmm, i wondered why the men's room had deep fryers...

this thread makes me sleepy.

+1 Fint!

We live in strange times. What one calls black the other calls white. I spent a sleepless night listening to callers - a never ending supply - who actually believe terrorists had nothing to do with 9-11. That the US government actually staged it. They are so afraid of the truth that they will believe anything. It's so sad that they have nothing else to believe in.

As Chesterson said 100 + years ago - and I paraphrase - once people quit believing in God, the danger is not that they'll believe in nothing. The danger is that they'll believe in anything.

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The truth is of all the people and entities in this world that seek to enslave free men, a man's own gov't is number one on the list.

Just ask ANY of the founding fathers.

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. "
~George Washington

Some of these 'loyalist types' act like we're paranoid nuts. I say we are no more or no less paranoid than each and everyone of the founding fathers were. Any person here or elsewhere who would seek to shout another American down for guarding against the usurpation of his rights is as stupid as he is short-sighted.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
~Thomas Jefferson

"Either we all hang together, or we'll surely all hang alone."
~Benjamin Franklin

But snipe...

Our government is different.....It can do no wrong.

(Tongue held firmly in cheek)

Therein is the conundrum. Many here equate enlistment in the military as an expression of patriotism for country. As if, somehow, becoming an agent for government means you hold our nation in the highest regard. Higher than keeping a family together and well turned out, higher than academic achievement that furthers mans knowledge of the universe, or even higher than being really good at whatever it is you do to earn your living.

In America, the purpose for our military has been misused for better than 150 years, and for the best part of the 20th century. That sole purpose was to be to defend America against attacks from without, and nothing else.

When authorizing the US government to engage in worldwide militarism, you arrive at where we are today. A US government that treats Americans as so many cattle to be watched night and day, a government that defines its' own limits, limits that change literally by the hour, a government that does what it wants, where it wants, and to whom it wants any time, any place, including right here in America.