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NASA opens new chapter in supersonic flight-2003
NASA opens new chapter in supersonic flight
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Credit: NASA ![]() Interesting comments by Craig Fink: http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/sci.aeronautics/msg00104.html
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Old news, they have been working on that for years. Glad to see them working on this issue but the changes needed to modify the sonic signature were massive.
That plane has been around Edwards for a long time.
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The biggest issue for supersonic flight has always been, and will always be, fuel consumption. Only if a very low cost fuel source is created, will ultra high speed flight be a reality.
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From a year ago.........................
http://www.machinedesign.com/ASP/viewSelectedArticle.asp?strArticleId=59901&strSite=MDSite Quote:
![]() The supersonic business jet from Aerion relies on natural-laminar-flow wings to fly efficiently at super and subsonic speeds. ![]() The QSST from SAI will use a Skunk Works design that features an inverted-V tail. EDIT: http://www.saiqsst.com/about.html Quote:
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Pat, Supercruise(supersonic flight without afterburner) was/is a massive breakthrough in regard to fuel effficeincy at supersonic speed.
Hence the massive range of the F-22 and it's unheard of supersonic persistence. One of the engineers at my site works the F-22 program. He gushes about the F-22. |
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Wow... can't even remember the last time I hears a sonic boom.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-269376791712267206&q=sonic+boom&hl=en
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Guys...
Concorde used supercruise (supersonic flight without the use of continuous after burner) as a basic design parameter....and its persistance is sufficient for it to cross the Altantic (just).. not to mention its also quite quite fast in supercruise.. (M2.02, fastest recorded was M2.23) Just a comparison; in the supersonic cruise part of its flight Concorde matched the efficiency of the 747 Classic series...but getting there was, unsurprisingly massively fuel hungry, thanks to the use of turbojets rather than fans... The issue with supersonic flight over land is that the sonic boom WAS the only factor that prevented it from becoming a reality.... The tests undertaken by the USAF/NASA and the FAA with both the B-58 and the XB-70 during the 60s proved the lingering suspicion that any large and heavy aircraft flying supersonically over the ConUS was never going to be acceptable....hence the legislation banning it. That it was formulated around the planned time of introduction of Concorde (which was then delayed not entering commercial service til 1976) was a co-incidence....not necessarily a deliberate 'protectionist' measure. The aim of that NASA programme was to try to 'reshape' the boom form to reduce the initial rate on increase of overpressure and the rate of decrease...in real terms the pressure change is not a problem to people and things.. its the rate of change of that pressure that doe the damage.. like hitting a wall at speed... the speed doesn't kill you, its the slowing down.. If that pressure curve can be refined and the max overpressure reduced then overland ss flight may be acceptable... and then the market for much higher speeds will be open again.... Remember Concorde was retired not because of its direct operational costs were excessive, (fuel, crew etc) but because a single user (BA) was being asked to shoulder ALL of the product support cost.. a cost increase, in the order of 80%, which the business plan could no longer support profitable operations.. remember she would have in all probability been retiring this year anyway... I miss her everyday... around 17.25 as she flew directly over my office coming bakc from NYC... |
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