fwiw the latest IE has tabs, like Mozilla.

Also, if you "upgrade" to IE7 there is a tabbed browsing feature that basically opens another IE window inside the one you're already running and you can click between them under the address bar.

*In my experience, not worth it just for tabbed browsing. Get FireFox 2.

Wayne, go with tabbed browsing. Much easier to deal with...
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Dave

Wayne,

Better tip. Ditch IE and go with Firefox. I did 3 months ago and have been kicking myself in the rear ever since. Why? Should have done it years ago.

Firefox is better, faster and uses lots less memory. Am addicted to the tabbing now and IE is just following Firefox's lead.

Try it, you WILL like it.

I use Opera. Fantastic browser.

LOL here's a really small tip for using Internet Explorer:

Don't.

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Or you could just use Firefox 2.0. :)

You can get a plugin for Firefox 2 that lets you run IE tabs under Firefox... :)

Dave

http://davemason.net/images/ie_tab.jpg

I just stopped making recommendations because it seems all one gets is shlt and no one seems to read previous posts anyway, guess I just got up on the wrong side of the bed.

Firefox good. Opera good. What's IE? ;)

One of my major beefs with MSFT. They take a standard and "improve" it to the point that it only works best with other MSFT products.

You should not have to design a site that works best with a particular browser.

That's why the W3C set standards that every other browser adheres to.

Hopefully won't last long. On the sites that I manage I see roughly 85% IE and the rest FireFox and others.

However, one of my gaming clients is getting 50% Firefox and 43% IE traffic.

That's gotta scare the crap out of MSFT. If I'm seeing that then the xBox site has got to be seeing something close to it as well.

It's important since gamers are considered pretty knowledgable and are generally the families "trusted advisor". They are the person that friends and family turn to for help with their PC needs.

Marketers are all going after the trusted advisor. The general public is apathetic about PC technology, they don't want to know the details. They just want a box to do their stuff with.

IE 7 suks

Opera +1

Les

The only site I have found that Firefox does not work with is Windows Update. They want THEIR browser being used with their updates. Course their browser needs to be updated as its so buggy and behind the times.

Sorry but have used IE far too much and there are other products out there that are better. MS is getting what they deserve and its way past time.

But it's *safer*. The thing at the top of Yahoo says so.

Not using IE at all is safer. Using a Mac is even safer ;)

Aurel

Just read that again. You have to wonder why would they allow that to happen? It's basically allowing an application to run multiple instances of itself. What is the benefit? I could see some upside if the app was doing some heavy processing (3d rendering) that did not utilize 100% of available RAM or processor time and that by running multiple instances you could run concurrent tasks in their own memory/processor space which could be efficient. Can't see why a web browser would need to do that.

Simply mind boggling.

I think that maybe they were hoping that when one IE window crashes, it wouldn't bring down the other 15. Of course, they didn't realize it brings down the whole OS...

What are these "crashes" you MAC guys are always talking about?:D

The ones that happen to me daily at work on my POS IBM StinkPad T42 running WinXP.

Put W2000 on it and the crashes will end. I head out on the road with my Dell laptop and W2000. Do not reboot it usually for months and never an issue. Oh yea, using Firefox and not IE.

designing a site with IE-specfic code is done at your own peril. I would never do it for a public site. For an intranet, have at it...but don't complain when you get fleas...

I could see it as being useful if you were doing something processing-intensive in IE, you could grab more system resources or run processes concurrently with separate windows that don't share memory.

That being said, I can't think of a single application for this on a PC.

Not permitted, W2k is "end-of-lifed" at my company and I'd be fired for having an out-of-date and "insecure" OS installed on my computer.

Seriously.

:rolleyes: Meanwhile, I just rebooted because this thing froze solid. Again.

I have XP on my Toshiba laptop and don't recall a single crash in two years.

Operator error?:D

I appreciate it, Wayne. Although I've known about Ctrl-N for some time, but did not realize there was a memory benefit. Thanks.

I will NOT upgrade to IE7 due to some known conflicts with other apps I run, and due to the security issues. (And due to Microsoft's poor track record with releases of buggy software)

I have considered Firefox, but some of my business interactives require IE. I just prefer not to mess around with a new, seperate browser just to make PPOT faster.

Um, no.

Come on now:D

I don't think I've ever had Windoze crash on me (been using it since W95...it's just an OS :)), but have never seen an operating system (and I've used MANY) that couldn't be crippled by end users doing something brilliant :) YMMV....

Last Friday it crashed while I was emailing.

Today it crashed while my viruscan files were updating in the background. Something I have no control over, our IT dept forces the updates.

I'm just messin' with ya. :)

You are probably the only guy i've ever run accross that can say that.

+1 - IE7 Sucks. So does Vista...stay away from Vista!!!!!!!

There's gotta be a joke in there somewhere...you know, along the lines of "you have the whitest teeth I've ever come across."

I dislike the tabbed browsing feature of Firefox. So I just cram as much memory in my computers as I can and use IE.

I run XP and IE 6.0
No problems here.

Netscape 6.0 seems to do well. i use that for e-mail.

Thanks for the tip, Wayne.


KT