WTH? GM wins car and truck of the year awards

[Vipergrün]

Gotta be some serious payola going on. How can GM POS vehicles win otherwise.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/autos/0701/gallery.detroit4/3.html

[legion]

I'm looking into buying a new truck. The new Silverado is light years ahead of the models offered by competitors. I'm probably going to hold off a year until the 6-speed is available.

From a truck perspective, this award is spot-on.

[Moneyguy1]

And precisely what would prevent an American manufacturer from getting a product award? Are we so enamored of foreign offerings that domestics are dismissed out-of-hand? Some of the worst cars I have EVER owned were European and some of the best were (gasp!!) Ford products!! Egad!!

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by bb80sc
Gotta be some serious payola going on. How can GM POS vehicles win otherwise.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/autos/0701/gallery.detroit4/3.html

Japanese cars are as over-rated as they are over-priced IMO. I can count one one hand the number of jap car models ever made that i'd actually "want" to own.

[tobster1911]

The thing I found most interesting was the headline "GM outpaces Toyota on hybrid tech " in the number 1 spot. Linked to the article below.

http://money.cnn.com/blogs/autoshow/2007/01/gm-charges-toward-electric-future.html

+1 on Moneyguy1's comments. Some people just love to hate the US autos based not on current reality but on old, old, perceptions....

[Flatbutt1]

I am very satisfied with my Tacoma p/u.

[Vipergrün]

I guess I posted this due to my own experience with GM vehicles. I had a brand new Silverado a few years back. Basically fell apart in 7K miles, tranny, A/C, fuel injection system, etc. Bought a Tundra and it was "lightyears" ahead of the GM. Maybe they are getting better, maybe quality control has improved, maybe they are more reliable. I don't plan on putting my cash down to find out. Glad this is America and I have the freedom to say what I desire, and buy what I desire. Glad some of you have had good experiences with your Fords and GM's...

[BlueSkyJaunte]

18 months ago my wife spent her $10k severance coupon from GM ($10k towards a GM car purchase) on a Vibe...which is a Toyota Matrix/Corolla with a Pontiac badge, manufactured at the NUMMI plant in CA. It was the only GM vehicle she was willing to trade in her Toyota Tacoma on.

Considering she worked as an engineer at the proving ground here, that's a pretty telling statement.

[Craig 930 RS]

Award is spot on indeed. Such a huge improvement over the past truck. And an improvement on the already very good Ford lineup.

No comparison to the past.

[m21sniper]

I've seen silverados with a quarter million miles on 'em still running strong. I have never seen a 'bad' Silverado, or any inherently 'bad' American pick-up. The closest i can think of is some of the early nineties Ford F-150s that had the known bad rear end issues.

I dare say you got an atypical example. Can happen with any car(have a friend that just returned a new lexus cause of all kinds of problems)

The only pickup i've ever owned personally was a toyota. I had that until the motor blew up when it had 150k miles on it. It was an ok truck while it lasted, but it was a total dog. No power at all, and it was even a 5speed. It was also a total rust bucket.

[skipdup]

My wife has drove a Tahoe for 2 years, then a trailblazer for 2 years and most recently a Denali for the past 3. All have been trouble free.

I'm considering the new GM pickup and have no hesitation based on quality.

- Skip

[IROC]

A coworker just bought a Silverado (OK, it was last fall) because they took $10k off the sticker price. He got a $27k truck for $17k. Kinda hard to beat a deal like that.

My father-in-law just sold his Silverado and bought a Tundra. And he works at a Chevy dealership...

My ex-wife's brother bought a Tahoe a while back. After one week of normal driving, the engine locked up. Had it towed back to the dealer only to discover the engine only had 1 quart of oil in it. One week.

Mike

[notfarnow]

Originally posted by m21sniper
I can count one one hand the number of jap car models ever made that i'd actually "want" to own.

Toyota 2000Gt
Datsun 1600 roadster
any early "egg" subaru
Toyota BJ45 "troopie"
Mazda Miata

That's one hand...

[legion]

Originally posted by IROC
A coworker just bought a Silverado (OK, it was last fall) because they took $10k off the sticker price. He got a $27k truck for $17k. Kinda hard to beat a deal like that.

Of the last generation pickups, Ford won, hands down. The Chevy's were cheap crap last time around and were riddled with problems. Chevy is still selling the last-generation Silverado this year as the 'Silverado Classic'. I'd avoid them like the plague. I'd be willing to be that exact model is what your coworker got a steep discount on.

In the 1500, they've beefed up the frames, put in better engines (which will shut down cylinders on the highway), put struts up front, and rack & pinion steering. Next year, when the 6 speed tranmissions come out, they will get even better gas mileage highway cruzing and towing.

[m21sniper]

Originally posted by notfarnow
Toyota 2000Gt
Datsun 1600 roadster
any early "egg" subaru
Toyota BJ45 "troopie"
Mazda Miata

That's one hand...

My five:

Acura NSX
Toyota Supra Turbo
Datsun 240Z
Infiniti G35/Nissan Skyline
Honda S2000(a reach as i'd rather have a boxster or a Solstace in the same class).

Those five cars i actually would 'want'.

I never liked Miatas, though my cousin loves his(supercharged 1994). In that class i like the S2000/Boxster/Solstice much better.

[Craig 930 RS]

My_______ drove a _________ for ___ years and it's been great.
I wouldn't buy a _______if someone paid me to drive it.

_________s rule.
--------------------------------
Look at the big picture to make a decision.

[Type911]

Originally posted by IROC

My ex-wife's brother bought a Tahoe a while back. After one week of normal driving, the engine locked up. Had it towed back to the dealer only to discover the engine only had 1 quart of oil in it. One week.

Mike

I'd say that Chevy did pretty well to run that long on 1 qt of oil

[legion]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070108/ap_on_bi_ge/autos_ap_poll

[m21sniper]

WWII is all the evidence i'll ever need that the US can build vastly superior machines than the Japanese.