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thinkfloyd14 01-08-2007 01:44 PM

To Catch a Predator
 
I just recently discovered this show and went immediately to you tube to watch all the stings and I got hooked but theres only like three freakin videos on youtube, so i went to google vids and yahoo and couldnt find much more

can anyone find more footage of these shows im freakin hooked on them. Its the funniest thing ive seen on TV in such a long time

vash 01-08-2007 01:50 PM

funny? only thing remotely funny are the lameass excuses the pervs come up with. everything else, makes me sick.

Rick V 01-08-2007 01:59 PM

As a father of a rape victim (14 years old at the time) I have a hard time with the "funny" discription. They should put all these weirdos in a locked room with a rabid wolverine. You are correct, it is a good show and hey are doing a good job with it.

BlueSkyJaunte 01-08-2007 02:12 PM

It's mindboggling how many lunatic perverts there are out there...and they keep climbing out of the woodwork in the hopes of getting some action from some 13-year-old they met online.

As my wife put it, "what makes these scumbags think a 13-year-old girl would find them even remotely attractive??"

I just don't get it...on top of it all, why does it take a freaking TV show to get these guys? What the hell is law enforcement doing? Oh, that's right...handing out speeding tickets and throwing more pot smokers in the clink.

Moses 01-08-2007 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
I just don't get it...on top of it all, why does it take a freaking TV show to get these guys? What the hell is law enforcement doing? Oh, that's right...handing out speeding tickets and throwing more pot smokers in the clink.
It's pathetic. Truly pathetic.

thinkfloyd14 01-08-2007 02:42 PM

alright alright lets say funny was not the right word

but who doesnt get a kick out of seeing those dudes faces or the excuses they come up with. its pretty entertaining and the shows a good cause as well.

Joeaksa 01-08-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Rick V
As a father of a rape victim (14 years old at the time) I have a hard time with the "funny" discription. They should put all these weirdos in a locked room with a rabid wolverine. You are correct, it is a good show and hey are doing a good job with it.
+1. Lock the door with them inside and walk away. Its better than the treatment that they gave to the kids they molested.

TheMentat 01-08-2007 04:10 PM

that's creepy schit...

this was much more to my liking:
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Rondinone 01-08-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by thinkfloyd14
alright alright lets say funny was not the right word

but who doesnt get a kick out of seeing those dudes faces or the excuses they come up with. its pretty entertaining and the shows a good cause as well.

Absolutely. How about "satisfying"?

thinkfloyd14 01-08-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Rondinone
Absolutely. How about "satisfying"?
ill take it

Moneyguy1 01-08-2007 06:15 PM

Vouyerism?

I dunno...seems as if so many "reality" shows just make things worse.

notfarnow 01-08-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Vouyerism?

I dunno...seems as if so many "reality" shows just make things worse.

+1

As satisfying as it is to watch, I think they could catch a lot more pervs if it wasn't on TV.

There are some really creepy dudes on those vids. Worse yet are the dudes that seem very normal. That really freaks me out.

island911 01-08-2007 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
. . .I just don't get it...on top of it all, why does it take a freaking TV show to get these guys? What the hell is law enforcement doing? Oh, that's right...handing out speeding tickets and throwing more pot smokers in the clink.
Actually, the Fed's are pretty damn active on this. The problem is there are so damn many predators that the Fed's have to prioritize. --Just look how easy Dateline has . .season after season. . . ."have you seen this show? --uhh yeah." (stoooooPid)
The internet has really changed the 'access' game. The parents may want to take responsibility here.

What I find odd are the cops outside, at the end, with the guns drawn. Geeze, ya'd think the guy stole a PS3, or something. :rolleyes: --seriously, have any of the perp's been armed, or even the slightest bit violent?

BlueSkyJaunte 01-08-2007 07:28 PM

Tell me you don't want to open a can of whupass on each and every one of those monsters...now you know why the cops have their guns drawn etc. I can't imagine any normal human who wouldn't enjoy pointing a gun at any of those f*ckheads.

island911 01-08-2007 07:43 PM

whupass ? . . .well yeah. But that should come from the other prisoners. If they, (the perp's) and their ilk, don't ultimately end up there,(prison) then having officer Fife acting mean and threatening their lives is just a joke.

(edits)

Joeaksa 01-08-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by island911
Actually, the Fed's are pretty damn active on this. The problem is there are so damn many predators that the Fed's have to prioritize. --Just look how easy Dateline has . .season after season. . . ."have you seen this show? --uhh yeah." (stoooooPid)
The internet has really changed the 'access' game. The parents may want to take responsibility here.

What I find odd are the cops outside, at the end, with the guns drawn. Geeze, ya'd think the guy stole a PS3, or something. :rolleyes: --seriously, have any of the perp's been armed, or even the slightest bit violent?

Agree and its kinda "Barny Fife" the way they tackle the perp after he comes out of the house.

Personally I would rather see the perp put in a closed room with Mom's and Dad's for 5 minutes, THEN given to police custody. No weapons or hand cuffs would be needed then... possibly an ambulance or hearse.

VINMAN 01-08-2007 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by notfarnow
+1

As satisfying as it is to watch, I think they could catch a lot more pervs if it wasn't on TV.

How about the one scumbag on there that told the reporter he had a feeling that it might be a setup, but he figured he would take the chance and try anyway.

Jim Bremner 01-08-2007 08:32 PM

I'm a divorced dad, I have the kids 80% of the time.

My kids stepdad was one of the perv's arrested.

I could go on for chapters.

island911 01-08-2007 08:46 PM

:eek:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1168321488.jpg

shouldn't that be "I now have the kids 100% of the time." ?

cantdrv55 01-08-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by island911
:eek:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1168321488.jpg

shouldn't that be "I now have the kids 100% of the time." ?

+1000!!!!

Jim Bremner 01-08-2007 10:00 PM

yes, but try and explain it to your sons.

There 13 & 17


No matter what I do I'm wrong...good news is that the perp is into girls

thinkfloyd14 01-08-2007 11:11 PM

Which one was he?? What was his name? is he in one of the California episodes?

notfarnow 01-09-2007 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by VINMAN
How about the one scumbag on there that told the reporter he had a feeling that it might be a setup, but he figured he would take the chance and try anyway.
Good point. But you have to wonder how many are "flying low" because of all the attention. Could be a lot more effective to forget about the cameras & reporters, and bring a guillotine instead.

Some of the guys seemed genuinely remorseful, and I believe that they are sorry and very ashamed. That's the problem; despite the shame and remorse, they can't control themselves. I'm a teary-eyed liberal of the first order, but I've seen a couple lives ruined by pervs who like "young girls". I wouldn't object to some pretty nasty solutions.

vash 01-09-2007 02:54 PM

man, my brother the cop, busted a friend of mine for messing with a 13 year old girl (in the act). he got the full sentence, and what really amazed me, was that his wife didnt leave his ass. i quit talking to him.

i read somewhere that 1 out of five kids in the chat rooms are really law enforcement people.

VaSteve 01-09-2007 04:14 PM

While I think it makes good "entertainment," I don't agree with non-cops doing the work of police. What if they did shows on something less disgusting...say picking up hookers...or buying drugs... what if they were wrong? Ruin a guy's life. At least on Cops, they always actually have Cops and "all victims are innocent until proven guilty" Here they are judge jury and executioner. From what I recall of this, I don't think an actual cop is running this...just some "Perverted Justice" group of parents who likely get off in their own right on their power.

I'm all for busting these guys by the people who are supposed to be doing this. I just don't see enough controls around how this show is presented to have any integrity.

notfarnow 01-09-2007 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by VaSteve

I'm all for busting these guys by the people who are supposed to be doing this. I just don't see enough controls around how this show is presented to have any integrity.

Yep. When I watched these last night on youtube, there was also some local TV news version. They had one where the guy drove by the house, but never got out of his vehicle. They pulled him over with cameras and all, and arrested him.

Obviously, there was a degree of intent there. He had contacted the "girl" online and drove by her house a couple times. Just the same, I'm not sure how that would hold up in court, or whether they should have put him on TV.

VaSteve 01-09-2007 06:07 PM

One things I don't understand about the law...when is intent the "crime" as opposed to actually doing the crime? If I leave work and intend to do 90 the whole way home and then shoot up a bunch of drugs, why can't I be arrested now? I guess this is special circumstances?


They recently ruled that computer simulated porn of underage girls was *not* illegal because they couldn't show kids were actually harmed. I don't understand how a 34 year old cop on the other end doesn't somehow fall into the same category.

Just playing devil's advocate here.

URY914 01-09-2007 06:09 PM

My brother is a vice cop. They have several "kids" on line 24/7. They schedule "meets" weekly. Perv's are EVERYWHERE! Protect your kids. Disconnect the web.

notfarnow 01-09-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by URY914
My brother is a vice cop. They have several "kids" on line 24/7. They schedule "meets" weekly. Perv's are EVERYWHERE! Protect your kids. Disconnect the web.
Yep. My brother's stepdaughter is 12. They recently set up a computer for her in her bedroom, with internet. I think he is out of his freakin' mind.

VaSteve 01-09-2007 06:11 PM

I'm curious about the long term fallout to these cops. It has to mess them up somehow working in that.....

URY914 01-09-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by VaSteve
I'm curious about the long term fallout to these cops. It has to mess them up somehow working in that.....
It does. They rotate the cops out of the unit because they get sick of the a-holes the chat with. They get so pissed at them they want to set up the meet too soon just to kick thier a$$. Burn out rate is high.

notfarnow 01-09-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by VaSteve



They recently ruled that computer simulated porn of underage girls was *not* illegal because they couldn't show kids were actually harmed. I don't understand how a 34 year old cop on the other end doesn't somehow fall into the same category.


There was a ruling in BC a few years ago, stating that it is legal to publish & possess writing and art that depicts sex with children. Same argument was used... while IT IS disgusting, it is not ILLEGAL to imagine or fantasize about things.

These men are being charged with using the internet to make contact with children for the purpose of sexual encounters. Seems pretty clear cut, especially when they are showing up with condoms. :(

VaSteve 01-09-2007 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by notfarnow


These men are being charged with using the interent to make contact with children for the purpose of sexual encounters. Seems pretty clear cut, especially when they are showing up with condoms. :(

(Take the sick part out of it.)

Yeah, but they are not real children, like the cops that set up johns aren't real hookers and drug stings aren't really selling drugs. Obviously some laws have been written to allow police to do this.... I don't understand how it doesn't apply to other crimes. If a cop stopped a guy waering a big coat in the summer for intent to shoplift it's profiling. Is the fact the "vice" squad handles this part of the reason it works?

Joeaksa 01-09-2007 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by notfarnow
Yep. My brother's stepdaughter is 12. They recently set up a computer for her in her bedroom, with internet. I think he is out of his freakin' mind.
Dangerous. Put an end to it before something happens. There are a lot of perverts out there.

notfarnow 01-09-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by VaSteve
(Take the sick part out of it.)

Yeah, but they are not real children, like the cops that set up johns aren't real hookers and drug stings aren't really selling drugs. Obviously some laws have been written to allow police to do this.... I don't understand how it doesn't apply to other crimes. If a cop stopped a guy waering a big coat in the summer for intent to shoplift it's profiling. Is the fact the "vice" squad handles this part of the reason it works?


With profiling, you're just narrowing your search down to people you THINK might have intent.

I think this is WAAY beyong profiling. These men contacted what they thought were young girls & boys for sex. They made INTENT was clear and unambiguous. They used the internet to make contact with children, and then went to the address for purpose of having sex with them.

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Originally posted by Joeaksa
Dangerous. Put an end to it before something happens. There are a lot of perverts out there.
Agreed. Problem is he is big on TRUST. I think he's nuts
1) I wouldn't trust a hormonal teenager any more than I trust a heroin addict jonesin' for a fix
2) I don't think the internet, unsupervised, is a safe portal for children & teens

URY914 01-09-2007 06:31 PM

Most states now have laws against contacting minors for sex. That is how they get them.

Not the same as talking to hookers. You can still do that until you ask "how much?"

VaSteve 01-10-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by URY914

Not the same as talking to hookers. You can still do that until you ask "how much?"

I don't see why... I'm a bargain shopper!

slakjaw 01-10-2007 04:47 PM

OK I have an idea for a spoof. One of the camera guys order pizza for lunch, the delivery guy shows up and the girl is like wait here at the bar. The news guy comes out and says "what are you doing here"


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