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Eventually these fine men who've exposed the lies of the Executive Branch will be listed among the rightful heroes of America.
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It has been cold outside, so my numb fingers may not translate my even colder thoughts:
In response to Lt. Watada's refusal to deploy, the U.S. Army has leveled a number of charges against him: * conduct unbecoming an officer * missing movement (for refusing to deploy to Iraq on June 22) * contempt toward officials (in this case, President Bush) At the time of these initial charges, Lt. Watada faced the possibility of a court-martial and up to seven years in prison as well as a dismissal if convicted. About this eventuality, Watada said that he does not regret his decision and is willing to face the consequences, citing it as what he believes is a moral responsibility. Watada has said he is not a conscientious objector because he is not opposed to all wars as a matter of principle, and so offered to serve in Afghanistan,[8] which he regarded as "an unambiguous war linked to the Sept. 11 attacks." This was also refused. Watada, in turn, refused an offer for a desk job in Iraq without direct combat involvement.[5] At least he has the courage of his convictions...but not meeting a deployment? Tough...face the music.
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Wish I could re-up and tell the CO where I wanted to serve!
Wonder if Hawaii needs people this time of year? Then I could PCS to Bavaria in spring, summer and fall, then return to Hawaii next winter! Hope the LT likes Leavenworth. He will be there for a long time and he deserves every day of it. Maybe he can share a cell with slopat?
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Sounds like the Lt is more scared of Iraq than Leavenworth. I imagine he is relying on a future loser President to pardon him...like the scum that went to Canada during the Vietnam War. I hope he rots in prison.
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![]() He has my respect...all the way to his conviction, and beyond. You never miss a deployment, ever. People are counting on you, especially officers and senior enlisted.
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Illegal, unlawful? I love those terms. The international law cite is most amusing given your stated predilections. If you had the opportunity to be an unrestricted line officer you would know the difference. Get with your troops, get them prepared, take care of them and be a man. Always. I won't paste the oath he took, what I will say is that his men deserved better.
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Oh please! Shaken to is’ core, not hardly. Not even on the RADAR screen of the US Military or the USG. Where are the hundreds (or tens) of soldiers that are following his lead?
Illegal war, I do believe that the Congress voted to support the Iraqi mess, including Hillary. Don’t even try the “Bush lied” gambit because history will vindicate his decision based on the Intelligence that he assessed. BTW, The Congress had access to the same intell and went along with the invasion. As far as I can remember, no one is compelled to join the military. The Lt. raised his hand as a volunteer and signed up for the term of service. The right to choose which lawful orders to obey in the military not one of the choices afforded a service-member. Recap: 1. War voted on by Congress. 2. Issued a lawful order by those appointed over him. 3. Missed a military movement. The Lt. will be convicted and will spend time in the US Disciplinary Barracks at Ft. Leavenworth KS where he will learn to take direction. Jim S.
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You are using the UN as a reference?
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Okay, not relevant, upon what do you base your assesment that the USG is shaken to its' core?
And it was a lawful order. Review the rules of Land Warfare and the Geneva Conventions. Ordered to report to a location is not an unlawful order. Jim S.
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This is in the same league as Pat's messing himself over the secession convention. Really big news for moonbats who read the fringe blogs and get excited over meaningless events. To everybody else, BFD.
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Update and background information on the Ehren Watada trial.
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