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jorian 02-11-2007 09:06 AM

Putin "US wants to rule the world"
 
Wrong messenger, right message?

Clearly showing signs of short term memory loss, or a highly tuned sense of irony (Cold War, anyone?), Putin says out loud what many other leaders must be thinking.

Dottore 02-11-2007 09:13 AM

I'd have to say the man has a firm grasp of the obvious!

Of course he'd also like to rule the world.

So would I for that matter.

Everybody wants to rule the world...

...Wait...isn't there a song about that???

Flatbutt1 02-11-2007 09:27 AM

"...poor men want to rich, rich men want to be king, the kings not satisfied till he rules everything..."

springstein

Dottore 02-11-2007 10:14 AM

All for freedom and for pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world.

-simply red

speeder 02-11-2007 02:15 PM

Pretty soon this world ain't gonna be worth ruling, at the present rate.

jorian 02-11-2007 08:59 PM

"What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having?"

-sting

lendaddy 02-12-2007 06:33 AM

I'm gonna be sick.

hytem 02-14-2007 07:06 PM

How many troops do we still have in Europe--and why? What is the purpose of NATO these days?
You have to ask these questions with the melting of the Iron Curtain. Wonder what Churchill would have thought.

I suspect the Russians see NATO more as a threat than vice versa--trying to see their perspective on things. Putin is no saint, but he's popular in Russia, so he must be doing something right over there.

As for Bush, he just has a poor record for diplomacy. Probably because the real guy running the show is Cheney. And Cheney is a hard-headed ideologue. It's his way or no way.

Fortunately, they finally got a nuclear deal with North Korea--thanks to China, as I understand it. The Chinese don't want the Koreans with nuclear weapons probably more than us.

Americans see America largely through the American media. The view from the outside is somewhat different.

Jim Richards 02-15-2007 03:00 AM

From Wiki:

Project for the New American Century (Neocon U.)"

The PNAC Web site states the group's "fundamental propositions", which are[2]

* "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world."
* "such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle"
* "too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."

The PNAC also made a statement of principles at their 1997 inception.[3]

As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's pre-eminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?

The group advocates "a policy of military strength and moral clarity" which includes:

* A significant increase of US military spending.
* Strengthening ties with US allies and challenging regimes hostile to US interests and values.
* Promoting the cause of American political and economic power outside the US.
* Preserving and extending an international order friendly to US security, prosperity and principles.


[2] http://www.newamericancentury.org/
[3] http://newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

fastpat 02-15-2007 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Richards
From Wiki:

Project for the New American Century (Neocon U.)"

The PNAC Web site states the group's "fundamental propositions", which are[2]

* "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world."
* "such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle"
* "too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."

The PNAC also made a statement of principles at their 1997 inception.[3]

As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's pre-eminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?

The group advocates "a policy of military strength and moral clarity" which includes:

* A significant increase of US military spending.
* Strengthening ties with US allies and challenging regimes hostile to US interests and values.
* Promoting the cause of American political and economic power outside the US.
* Preserving and extending an international order friendly to US security, prosperity and principles.


[2] http://www.newamericancentury.org/
[3] http://newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

The translation of all on the PNAC web site is that, together, the US government and the Likudists in Israel can rule everyone else for their respective benefits; with Americans footing the bill and providing most of the blood.


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