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Dueller 02-19-2007 01:35 PM

Oh, well...perhaps some of you purists choose to ignore Porsches are a part of NASCAR's history (and I don't mean just the first IROC races).

Cornpanzer 02-19-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Dueller
Oh, well...perhaps some of you purists choose to ignore Porsches are a part of NASCAR's history (and I don't mean just the first IROC races).
FWIW, this has nothing to do with purity or snobbery or Porsches. I was a huge fan of NASCAR back in the 70s and 80s. Before I was 10 I was always found in front of the TV when one of the major races was televised. Back then it was really racing!
Especially in the 80s, the racing was close and competitive....but there wasnt the manipulation that we see now. Plus, the cars were really Fords and GM's.

Do you remember how cool it was in the mid 80s that Chevy and Pontiac actually built special Monte Carlos and Gran-Prix's to compete with the Thunderbird? If you wanted to race it, you actually had to build it! Much of the aerodynamic development we saw in our passenger cars of the 80s was due to Ford and GM needing to stay competitive in NASCAR.

Oh, and cheating??? Pu-leeeze :rolleyes: It was a cat and mouse game because EVERYONE was cheating. When somebody was caught they were fined and NASCAR went away a bit smarter. You never saw all of this media talk about scandal. You didnt have to sit through press conferences where the driver described the sadness in his little boys eyes. LOL I think it was Davey Allison or Kyle Petty or one of those 2nd Gen guys who talked about asw a child being expected to let the car roll over his foot in the tech lane so that they would meet the min height requirement.

But honestly, there is no racing today that is as cool as what it was in the previous generations. F1 and sports car in the 60's, Nascar in the 80s.......even in the late 80s when AUdi kicked butt and took names in SCCA and IMSA. We will never see that kind of action again.

Zeke 02-19-2007 02:19 PM

You said a mouthful, Dave. If anyone got to see the likes of Richard, Bobby, David, Cale, Junior, AJ and Gurney at Riverside, they saw a race.

jmshepard 02-19-2007 02:28 PM

The Daytona ratings are in (courtesy of Jayski.com):
Rating/Share
2005 10.9/23-Fox
2006 11.3/23-NBC
2007 10.1/20-Fox

JCF 02-19-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Cornpanzer


But honestly, there is no racing today that is as cool as what it was in the previous generations. F1 and sports car in the 60's, Nascar in the 80s.......even in the late 80s when AUdi kicked butt and took names in SCCA and IMSA. We will never see that kind of action again.

AMEN.

I think NASCAR would be wise to use a lot more of the dead time during races to show some of that great history of NASCAR and to show also some of the stuff that goes into making up a race car and a race team and race tactics and car adjustments.

Did they do any of that during the 3 hours of coverage prior to the race ?

Car races are so much more than cars chasing each other . You know it and I know it but do the people selling it care ?

That goes for F1 and ALMS also

John


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