Better than the Block of Cement in your head

Lincoln was skillfull as a career lawman/politician, and I might put him as one of the greatest I know of in the U.S., but being the greatest president, doubtfull. He definately left a mark - and a very black one, on our freedoms, but it maintained him his position of power until he was killed.

He was not the only one who tried to maintain the Union, little known fact is John Brown's rebellion that was squashed in West Virginia when he tried to set up his own slave free country.

And the reason we are there is.......(drum roll)....
1. Thirty+ years of corporate/government stone-walling of any development of renewable or alternative resources,
2. Planning commisions run by developers, and
3. Public consumerism whipped up to a frantic state by media, and
4. A little micromanage socialism growing inside the republican party.

Reap what we sow.

Austrian weapons........perhaps the monkey is climbing the wrong tree. Again.
How did that saying go........fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice .............

Been spanking the monkey again - and hard. That's my guess.

I NEVER believed the Iraq, Al Qaedea story
As far as WMDs went, it was a logical conclusion that Sadam had some left over, tucked away for a Rainy Day.

I also said very clearly that those arguements were SELLING POINTS to get the USA to go to war. That the real reason was Geopolitical...at this point I don't know if they know what the word means.

My guess is that the Monkey is telling the Truth this time. That the Iranians are supplying munitions to the Shi!ts. The question, is that supply being sanctioned at the highest levels of the Iranian power structure.

To be blunt GW and his crew acted like their ***** didn't stink, that they knew better than anybody else. Well their little escapade went into the *****er and now they have to eat their own *****.

Now that U mention it Dotty.. When I was younger I used to spank the monkey 5 or 6 times a day for decades...used to put alot of stains on the ceiling... But now as I am getting older I just don't have the same interest as I once had..now I am down to just 2 times a day.

I think Bush has it correct. If you listen to outgoing Iranian UN ambassador, Dr. M. Javad Zarif, he claims security in Iraq is within the best interest of Iran. So why not supply weapons to at least the south of Iraq which is where Shias have influence? Iran feels it's time to gain position in the region whilst civil war goes on as there have been major wars in the area for a good part of late last century and now, all of which affected Iran.

The issue, however, is it's not our civil war. Nonetheless, if we have to be involved, Iran is willing to talk to the U.S., again according to Zarif.

The problem with monkies, though, is they can't talk. Gorillas, at best, might understand sign language. :rolleyes:

Well I always thought you were a bit of a wanker.

And I mean that in a nice way. I really do.

DeeDee your right it isn't our CW, but it is in our interest to maintain stability in the Region. Bushs adventure put us all at risk, needlessly as it turns out.

However we can not walk away without putting ourselves at peril. Thats where the Democrats get off track. The plans they lay out would allow the Iraqis free reign in slaughtering each other which would set the stage for a larger war in the Region as other Nation states react to maintain their own stability.

We should drop porn on Iran, then they could all spank the monkey.

Dunno about all this stuff but while that dumb effing monkey was out goofing off a bunch of damn chinchillas overran his cage and ***** all over the place!

Finally someone is making sense out of Iraq. :D

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Aside from nearly always presenting your views as sarcasm instead of straightforward comments (sarcasm does not make your comments more powerful or compelling), I figured out that Iv'e also been reacting to the impossibility of you not understanding things any better than you pretend. I know you get it, and you're just pretending.

Yes, intel gathering is "where it's at" in terms of fighting terrorism. All the monkeys I know have found this conclusion within easy reach.

Dubya did't catsh ***** for gathering intelligence. He's caught ***** for breaking the law and pretending there are no limits to his authority to break them.

He might be right about Iran. But he's been so consistently duped over the years that he's placed himself in an incredible position. America no longer trusts him. He will need to plead his case, and he seems to have figured that out now.

I know you know these things. Why pretend you don't?

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"HE" "HE" "HEHEHEHEHHEHE HAHAHAHAHA . . .oh wait, where was I?

Oh yeah, why do YOU dump ALL of this on Bush? Was HE responsible for the severly lacking intel on 9/11/01? Well, we know Sandy Burgler has destroyed evidence there. But back to Who YOU balme FOR FREAKING EVERYTHING! Do you think that Bush (and all the rest of everyone caught with their intel-pants down) hasn't been significantly 'upping' the intel apparatus?

He took a couple of swings (or swigs) at the monkey and missed apparently.

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There wasn't any "lack" of intelligence about the events that occured on that date, nor for the six months prior to that date. The Bush'ists didn't want all of the intelligence because it didn't coincide with their plans to invade Iraq. According to court records, FBI field agents attempted to sound the warning about the impending attacks and were rebuffed to the point of having their jobs threatened.

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Well, we know Sandy Burgler has destroyed evidence there.

Since that allegation has been disproved in a court of law, why do you continue to make it? Do you really think assertions become true if you make them over and over again?

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But back to Who YOU balme FOR FREAKING EVERYTHING! Do you think that Bush (and all the rest of everyone caught with their intel-pants down) hasn't been significantly 'upping' the intel apparatus?

There was no shortage of intelligence about the 9/11 attacks, and no shortage of valid intellegence about Iraq prior to March 2003. The Bush'ist Office of Special Plans altered or omitted intelligence data in order to have what was put together showed something other than the truth, and forwarded that to the Congress. That's been documented by a wide variety of sources, including the Inspector General of the Department of Defense.

Really, you should learn these facts before you continue to make the same allegations you've been making for the last 5+ years.

We should go to war with Iran over little tiny weapons.

Sure the intel was bad before, but it's not like they lied. This time it's bound to be right.

Where do I sign up ? And when do I get my Brazillian ? After all, it's not like these guys just want to go to war for personal reasons. They have the best interests of our great nation at ransom.

To quote our illustrious President, "fool you once, shame on me. Er, the point is to not get fooled.''

Let me know when you find the terror. I'll hold it while you attack it.

You, sir, are a Gentile and a Scallop, I'm right proud to know ye.