Murtha reveals that he really does not support our troops
 

Murtha has made it clear that he intends to use the power of the purse to damage efforts to fight the war in Iraq. As the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee on defense, according to this article, he “did not hide the purpose of setting standards for training, equipping and resting troops”…according to Murtha: "They won't have the equipment, they don't have the training and they won't be able to do the work." So much for supporting the troops.

an op-ed piece isn't really an news "article."

Novak's views and actions are interesting......Inconsistent, and that is what makes them so interesting.

I guess our troops better hurry up and find those WMDs. They'll need something to defend themselves with.

And of course, I did not call it a "news article." The interesting part is obviously where they quote Murtha. He has become so drunk with power that he is not very careful what he says these days. The Democrats have been very careful to pretend to be "for the troops" and "against the war" because they know they will never retain power if their true intentions are known. Murtha has spilled the beans.

It will be like the Carter administration. I remember having to bring toilet paper from home.

So then you're saying that an op-ed piece can not contain news or factual information?

It's like you're just hurl'n burbs ;) lately.

well there's no point in arguing with some people... :p

Or like bake sales for body armor.

Rumsfelds definition of "leaner and meaner" must have meant under-manned and under-equipted,(edit-) and really pissed off.

With all the money poured into that "surgical operation", including the massive Iraqi oil profits, one whould have to wonder where all the money went to, certainly not "the troops".....

What fintstone means is that all Americans should support the mass murders being perpetrated by the US government military today.

That straight from the Abraham Lincoln hymnal. Lincoln stated that you would be a traitor even if you were silent; that is anyone not cheering on the total destruction of a country and its' people were subject to arrest and imprisonment without trial or charges.

That's precisely where fintstone is today; he's an advocate of mass murder, hopefully most see him for what he is.

Hey! Your party is in control of the money now. We need even better armor for our Humvees and trucks to protect the guys from the new improved IEDs of Iranian manufacture. Why isn't the new speaker (and you) calling for better equipment now? All your party seems concerned with is buying votes and helping rich tuna fish packers. How about a little money for the troops, Democrats? Is it OK to under-man and under-equip the troops as long as liberals do it?

Shhhhhh. The media is trying to keep all this on the down-low. Don't rock the boat. Support the troops, man, you know, bring em home. Just think how awesome it would be if the civil war erupted over there and the killing exploded! It would look so bad for Bush. Man, that would be killer. We'd really get him. I bet the Democrat approval ratings would rise by at least 10%.

This "prediction" of an Iraqi civil war was told to Bush long before the war started by a number of military advisors.

Know what Bush did? He fired them.


So four years later, while the chaos is escalating and the civilian population is a 'leeetle-bit worse off than under the brutal dictator/hitler, you guys blame a brand new congress for everything.

Oh yeah. That'll work.

Valerie Plame reported the Niger-nukes thing was fake, the WMD rumor was directly from Chalabi, and Bush didn't even have the balls to split up the turkey into three parts knowing what was comming.

I know Haliburton is on the edge of chapter 11, but why are we there again?

You know that? They have a 10% net profit margin.

When will you guys realize that posting known lies over and over only exposes the fact that you have no valid argument to use?

More fiction. Do you really believe any of this?

Anyone notice how far Rearden is disconnected with what is happening in Iraq now? A civil war has been in progress for well over a year now, and hundreds are dying almost everyday. Rearden is apparently unaware of those activities.

Yawn, this guy simply can't give up his government worship, and keeps trying to get us to drink the KoolAid.

Fat chance.

Fint, the $.50 paper at the next corner has a little artical about Scooter Libby. Is that name familiar?
Valerie Plame Wilson was a CIA agent who reported to her superiors that the Niger connection was misleading/fabrication/false/lie/deception/fraudulant, at then had her life and career put at stake when Libby/Armitage/Cheney leaked classified information to the public.

This was one of the primary justifications for spending trillions of dollars (in a down economy), and loosing the lives of 3000+ "troops" and injuring 40,000 more.

This sort of seems a little more important than some sloppy knob to me. You?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Did I get that wrong? If so please correct me. I think that's what her former function was, wasn't it?
Saw on the Today Show a "new revealing look" exposee at the facts and stats between Sunnis and Shia. This is 2007, where are Americans?.

Yes. You got it wrong. In fact, not a single sentence was correct. You couldn't really believe any of that so I must assume that you are posting incorrect info just to elicit a response...if not, you are so far off that it isn't even worth the effort of trying to help.

Way, way off. Your right Fint, it was Joe Wilson who discovered Bush was intentionally falsifying material in order to begin the war.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake_forgery
I wonder how the "military intelligence" guys here feel about an administration who would do such a thing (soley for petty political reasons)?
Would it be o.k. for Hillarys admin to do the same thing? Just curious.

Lend, you need to switch news channels once in a while buddy. A sheet of paper looks very thin when viewed from the side.

You realize ofcourse that if this were true Bush would be in prison or at the very least impeached, yes? Someone does need a new news source but it's not me.

No, should be in prison. Impeachment, viewed by the founders as a usable tool, simply doesn't happen often enough because the executive branch has figured out how to pay off the legislative branch. Odd since the legislative branch holds the titular pursestrings.

Yes I know Pat, every elected official outside of Ron Paul should be in prison, we get it.

Obviously you don't get it. Your writings demonstrate a virtual complete lack of understanding about the US government and its' 100+ years of murder and mayhem abroad.

Oh I get it Pat, which is why my statement is at least mostly correct in regards to your thinking.

just an other BIG LIE from the GOP

people who ''support our troops''
want leave them in a shoot gallery
at great risk of death
and those who ''donot support our troops''
want them safe at home with their loved ones

maybe the truth is closer to
''support our military industrial complex cash flow''
is really what ''support our troops'' means

Cute but false, at least in regards to elected officials. If it were true they wouldn't be messing around with non binding resolutions and would instead be voting to cut off funds.

Not a military intelligence guy but have had them work for me. The users of the common intelligence question the product (that is what intelligence is, a product).

Joe Wilson had as much business looking into the Niger yellow cake as I do in choreographing a classical ballet.

I and many others have quite rightly question the intelligence products. The intelligence communities have their own group think and have a stunning lack of touch with reality on the ground and hard technical facts. These color their products.

Mr. Wilson had an agenda and lacked the real qualifications outside of the caviar circuit to look into anything.

Apparently not, his discovery of the fraudulent "yellow cake" basis has withstood vetting by even the most diehard neocons.

Those who have seen the "documents" purporting to prove that Iraq was buying this precursor to enriched uranium have stated that even an amateur could tell they were fakes.

Pat,

The allegation was that the Iraqis were attempting to buy, not bought yellow cake. The Iraqis did attempt to buy yellow cake. There is a difference.

FOG

As expected, Murtha was unsuccessful and made fools out of both he and Grandma Pelosi:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17322591/