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Dueller 03-09-2007 12:22 PM

With all the vtriolic political rants in here, its a shame the only public servant...
 
....who could unite this country ain't running. And probably never will.

Colin Powell.

arcsine 03-09-2007 12:24 PM

Any of the people who really should be president are far too intelligent to ever try.

id10t 03-09-2007 12:26 PM

And anyone who desires to be in office probably shouldnt be allowed to be in office...

on-ramp 03-09-2007 12:26 PM

I still cannot believe Antonella was cut from Idol last night, she was so hot!

Dueller 03-09-2007 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
I still cannot believe Antonella was cut from Idol last night, she was so hot!
BA....*SNORT*...HAWWWWW. 'SCUSE ME WILL i CLEAN THE DIET COKE FROM MY SCREEN:D

Jim Richards 03-09-2007 12:38 PM

CP sounds interesting.

Dueller 03-09-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
CP sounds interesting.
Think about it...even with working for the current administartion, I don't think that would "taint" him in the Dem's eyes. And as much as Bush tries to appear tough and Clinton tried to appear compassionate, or however you want to characterize either of them, I think CP would command, no...demand, respect both domestically and world wide.

I bet the warring factions in the middle east would take notice if he made a vow to combat terrorism.

the 03-09-2007 12:48 PM

5, 4, 3, 2 . . .

Dueller 03-09-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by the
5, 4, 3, 2 . . .
You really think so? Hmmmmm....I'd think just the opposite.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-09-2007 01:30 PM

Bush must've seen Powell as a threat either to his plans or to his brother's (or other cronies') potential future run at the presidency. Powell is a guy who can run on a conservative platform without alienating moderates and the right-wing neocon whack-jobs that own King George II would never allow such a person to usurp their plans to dominate the WH for years to come. For these and who-knows-what-other reasons, Bush II made him the fall guy/liar/face of deception for the fabricated war on Iraq, which also had the "nice" side benefit of destroying CP's credibility.

Neocons. They eat their own.

Dan in Pasadena 03-09-2007 03:29 PM

Whew Jeff! It must be Friday, scorched earth opinions! Not that I disagree

Jim Richards 03-09-2007 04:39 PM

+1

Dueller 03-09-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
Bush must've seen Powell as a threat either to his plans or to his brother's (or other cronies') potential future run at the presidency. Powell is a guy who can run on a conservative platform without alienating moderates and the right-wing neocon whack-jobs that own King George II would never allow such a person to usurp their plans to dominate the WH for years to come. For these and who-knows-what-other reasons, Bush II made him the fall guy/liar/face of deception for the fabricated war on Iraq, which also had the "nice" side benefit of destroying CP's credibility.

Neocons. They eat their own.

As far as being the fall guy, all CP has to say is "I had faulty intelligence. In the position I was in I supported the commander in chief. If elected, I will not put my subordinates in such an untenable position. Next question."

And while palatable to the conservatives and moderates, I feel that many Dems, save the far left whack jobs, could support him on a number of issues. And I don't sdee him as so dogmatic that the areas upon which many americans are divided, that he would alienate those constituents. I think there would be a certain amount of tolerance, agree to disagree attitudes by many voters without it being a deal breaker.

Regardless, I think he's a what you see is what you get no BS kinda guy. He didn't go whining to the media after the UN fiasco. He left. And that spoke volumes as to his character.

Jim Richards 03-09-2007 04:49 PM

I'd be happy if he ran as an indie. Nowadays, Reps and Dems are hard to tell apart on anything other than the hot button issues.

Jim727 03-09-2007 05:00 PM

Unlike every member of the current administration [sic], Gen. Powell knows what it *means* to go to war, when it's necessary and not, and what it takes to win. That certainly explains why the dogmatists pushed him out.

I could vote for him.

Dueller 03-09-2007 05:15 PM

Can you imagine the debates if he ran as an independent? I can just see him giving that stern military stare to Mitt/John/Hillary/Obama/Rudy/whoever, and without saying a word communicating the sentiment "Which butt cheek did you pull that BS from."

Regardless of your political bent, THAT alone would be worth the price of admission.

Jim Richards 03-09-2007 05:18 PM

LOL! :D

Jim727 03-09-2007 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Dueller
Can you imagine the debates if he ran as an independent? I can just see him giving that stern military stare to Mitt/John/Hillary/Obama/Rudy/whoever, and without saying a word communicating the sentiment "Which butt cheek did you pull that BS from."

Regardless of your political bent, THAT alone would be worth the price of admission.

I would love it, and I think we really need a candidate who more accurately reflects the values and principles of the nation.

The neocon republicans are so steeped in dogma that it has become a form of insanity.

The democrats wouldn't recognize a threat if someone came over here and blew up some of our citizens.

They're both a lost cause.

Jim Richards 03-09-2007 05:26 PM

Yep

Zeke 03-09-2007 05:33 PM

Jeez, you guys would take CP over Al Sharpton?

Jim Richards 03-09-2007 05:34 PM

Hmmm, is this a trick question? :D

hytem 03-09-2007 06:31 PM

You have to wonder what Powell will do now. Bush is getting a lot of credit these days for his Africa policy, but it really was done by Powell when he was Sec of State. I have that on good authority.

The media's treatment of the electoral process in this country sucks--to put it plainly. You watch MSNBC, they have a nightly poll: Hillary vs Obama, Guiliani vs McCain. That's all they discuss--the horse race--mostly Hillary/Obama. Guiliani so far has had a free ride in the media--so he's ahead. No negatives exposed yet for him. Hillary has gotten pounded, so she's lost some ground. McCain's Iraq policy is unpopular--he's lost ground. Obama is getting a free ride, too.

What about Romney? Edwards? Richardson? A few weeks ago, Edwards was the only Dem who could beat Guiliani or McCain. Tell that to MSNBC and the rest of those poll watchers--or is it poll makers?
And this is a year before the primaries.

Jim727 03-09-2007 08:20 PM

Another person I'd like to see in the race: Wes Clark.

Intelligent, Patriotic, Capable, and both the extreme left and extreme right dislike him intensely. Works for me.

fintstone 03-10-2007 12:54 AM

I hope that Powell does run as a Democrat. He is left of Hillary.

Hugh R 03-10-2007 09:51 AM

I heard on Fox a few minutes ago that actor Fred Thompson is considering running. Former U.S. Senator from Tennessee.

Jims5543 03-10-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
I still cannot believe Antonella was cut from Idol last night, she was so hot!
Hey!!


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