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Hugh R 03-14-2007 07:20 PM

How To Break a Kryptonite Keeper Bike Lock
 
My college senior lost both keys to her bike lock and the lock is through the frame of the bike and the wheel. Is a Kryptonite "Keeper" lock with a slot, not a round key. Did a google search and the old ones apparently could be opened with a Bic pen body, not this one. I've got to cut the hardened steel, any suggestions?

slodave 03-14-2007 07:29 PM

Liquid Nitrogen and a hammer... Don;t know how to get those open.

many944s 03-14-2007 07:33 PM

I am not familiar with the name brand... Is it a standard single side key lock? If so, it can easily be picked. If it is a double side key, it would take a little more work, but can still be picked by a decent locksmith.

-Nick

Joeaksa 03-14-2007 07:35 PM

A dremel tool and a cutting wheel do it fine, or like Dave said, liquid nitrogen and a hammer.

I would use a die grinder or something with a 4" or larger cut off wheel. Would be through that in about 30 seconds.

Zeke 03-14-2007 07:35 PM

Not everyone has liquid N on hand. Any grinding disc will go through it like butter. The thinner the disc, the better. Even a Dremmel will work.

Hugh R 03-14-2007 07:40 PM

Thanks guys, I'll try the dremmel since I own one.

legion 03-14-2007 07:58 PM

Angle grinder?

slodave 03-14-2007 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by milt
Not everyone has liquid N on hand. Any grinding disc will go through it like butter. The thinner the disc, the better. Even a Dremmel will work.
What?!? Doesn't everyone keep a gallon in the freezer? :p

MacGyver would have used a pipe, some magnesium shavings made from his trusty Swiss Army pocket knife (from a ten speed racing bike that just happens to be lying around) and a flint striker to ignite the mag.

red-beard 03-14-2007 08:49 PM

Liquid nitrogen is cheaper than milk. And it doesn't make the Cherrios soggy.

slodave 03-14-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by red-beard
Liquid nitrogen is cheaper than milk. And it doesn't make the Cherrios soggy.
Yeah, but it gives you a nasty case of brain-freeze :D

Tobra 03-14-2007 08:54 PM

they sell liquid nitrogen over the counter for warts, surprisingly enough. They can also be defeated with a scissor jack

competentone 03-14-2007 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tobra
they sell liquid nitrogen over the counter for warts, surprisingly enough. They can also be defeated with a scissor jack
Warts can be defeated with a scissor jack????

You really have to explain this to us!

;)

K. Roman 03-15-2007 03:21 AM

ooops:confused:

cashflyer 03-15-2007 06:06 AM

My portable acetylene torch defeats almost all locks.

... and warts.

Noah930 03-15-2007 11:38 AM

+1 on Tobra's idea for a car jack. Either a scissors jack or bottle jack, between the U-shaped arms of the bike lock. Never done it myself, but have heard that this works.

RickM 03-15-2007 11:49 AM

A dremel sounds like a lot of work. A 4" angle grinder with a cut-off disc will be much quicker. 1/32" thick is best...as Milt mentions.

For portability one can buy cutoff discs with arbor so it can be chucked into a portable drill.

the 03-15-2007 11:58 AM

I'm with rick, I can't imagine how long that would take, and how many of those tiny Dremel cutoff discs you'd go through, trying to cut a hardened steel Kryptonite style lock with a Dremel.

legion 03-15-2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the
I'm with rick, I can't imagine how long that would take, and how many of those tiny Dremel cutoff discs you'd go through, trying to cut a hardened steel Kryptonite style lock with a Dremel.
I tried to manufacture a new trigger for one of my paintball guns from 1/8" mild steel plate with a Dremel. It took me two weeks and two packages (40 in all) cutoff discs.

I got my angle grinder w/ cutoff disc for $15 from Menard's. For as often as I use is (1-2 times a year), it's the right price.

RickM 03-15-2007 12:34 PM

I noticed that alot of the TV fabricators use a an electric angle grinder/cutoff disc combo to cut sheet metal. I find that the electric AG has quite a bit of gyroscopic pull and is sometimes difficult to handle. For sheet metal I much prefer a pneumatic cuttoff.

rammstein 03-15-2007 01:00 PM

Liquid Nitrogen is clearly the FUN way to do it. Take a video for us.

lendaddy 03-15-2007 01:05 PM

Padlocks are so easy to pick it's stupid. You don't even need to really "pick" them, just apply turning torque to the cylinder and rake the pins with a wavy wire.

Easy as pie.

Superman 03-15-2007 03:42 PM

I'm pretty good wth tools usually, but I have always been powerless against those Kryptonite locks.

Hugh R 03-16-2007 08:31 PM

Dremmel tool and cutoff disk for hardened steel, 30 seconds and it was off, thanks guys.:)

Noah930 03-16-2007 10:35 PM

Phew. That makes me feel safe. :rolleyes:
Maybe I can start using about 10 of 'em on each bike/motorcycle I own. Make the thief work for at least 5 minutes to steal the thing.

Tobra 03-16-2007 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superman
I'm pretty good wth tools usually, but I have always been powerless against those Kryptonite locks.
You just need to wear lead gloves

Quote:

Originally posted by competentone
Warts can be defeated with a scissor jack????

You really have to explain this to us!

;)

The trick is to get the jack between the wart and the basement membrane, otherwise you leave a scar

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widgeon13 03-17-2007 08:47 AM

reciprocating saw w/ carbide blade, then if someone gives you any shlt when your stealing (getting your daughter's bike free) just turn the saw on them.

the 03-17-2007 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hugh R
Dremmel tool and cutoff disk for hardened steel, 30 seconds and it was off, thanks guys.:)
Do you have a pic of the disc you used??

I've never been able to cut anything harder than a paperclip (ok a very small bolt) with my Dremel, using discs like this:

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/d/drer1326.jpg

After reading your post, I did some searching. Did you use something like this?

http://www.hobbylinc.com/gr/dre/dre7117.jpg

speeder 03-17-2007 09:09 AM

The flat fiberglass cut-off wheels for a Dremel tool will go through hardened steel on a padlock like a hot knife through butter. Well, like butter with a lot of sparks shooting out. ;)

I don't have a picture handy, but the discs I'm talking about resemble a very flat 50 cent piece.

speeder 03-17-2007 09:16 AM

Here's a picture of the disc I use:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1174148182.jpg

Hugh R 03-20-2007 06:07 AM

The same disk that Denis (Speeder) used, worked great.


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