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Rearden 03-22-2007 12:02 PM

Why are they called "insurgents"?
 
Sure, there were traditionally-defined insurgents in the beginning of this conflict (the "Baathist holdouts", mostly). Now these car bombers and death squad psychopaths are often hate-filled thugs out to kill people following the wrong branch of Islam. Yet the media refers to them all as "insurgents". Are the media simply trying to be inoffensive?

rhjames 03-22-2007 12:06 PM

Politically correct, you are.

Don't offend Islam, or the idiots that preach this destruction to the infedel bull*****.

How stupid.....

Super_Dave_D 03-22-2007 12:42 PM

Wheres Fastpat when you need a good answer? I know so you dont have to tell me hes banned

oldE 03-22-2007 01:05 PM

Another definition of insurgent is one who rushes in to fill a power vacumn. If they can keep things from settling down, they stand to grab some of the power.
Politics with guns and explosives.
Les

Hugh R 03-22-2007 01:20 PM

Someone who randomly kills women, children and innocent men on the street with a IED is an insurgent? I call him a ******** murderer.

Joeaksa 03-22-2007 03:36 PM

Re: Why are they called "insurgents"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rearden
Sure, there were traditionally-defined insurgents in the beginning of this conflict (the "Baathist holdouts", mostly). Now these car bombers and death squad psychopaths are often hate-filled thugs out to kill people following the wrong branch of Islam. Yet the media refers to them all as "insurgents". Are the media simply trying to be inoffensive?
Just heard the account yesterday of where the suicide bombers are now using children in their cars. This way the soldiers had been thinking that it was not a bombers car because of the children.

I thought it was sick before but now using innocent children to futher your sick ways is simply unbelieveable.

jluetjen 03-22-2007 04:12 PM

It's relativism to equate a random killer of civilians with someone who is specifically fighting an opposing army in plain clothes.

The former is a terrorist, the latter is an insurgent in my book.

It just shows the moral vacuum of much of the press who are more afraid of making a value judgement then of pandering to the biggest headlines.

on-ramp 03-22-2007 04:35 PM

Re: Re: Why are they called "insurgents"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Just heard the account yesterday of where the suicide bombers are now using children in their cars. This way the soldiers had been thinking that it was not a bombers car because of the children.

I thought it was sick before but now using innocent children to futher your sick ways is simply unbelieveable.

right. almost as sick as lying about WMDs to send our sons and daughters to their deaths.

good one!

Joeaksa 03-22-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Re: Re: Why are they called "insurgents"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by on-ramp
right. almost as sick as lying about WMDs to send our sons and daughters to their deaths.

good one!

Sorry but WMD's were found in Iraq. Guess you forgot about the deadly chemical stockpiles???

There is more there, we just have not found them yet. When we do I will be glad to personally shove some of them down your gullet.

Its the sick people like you who want more or something different. Jeez I detest liberal whinnnnnners.... someday will you pls grow a backbone?

on-ramp 03-22-2007 04:43 PM

WMDs were found in Iraq?! wow!

:eek:

ok, now that we have a defition for "insurgents". here's another one for you:

what do you call a leader/congress who illegally invades a small country based on WMD lies and wrecks havoc and destruction upon their people?

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Rearden 03-22-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Re: Re: Why are they called "insurgents"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by on-ramp
right. almost as sick as lying about WMDs to send our sons and daughters to their deaths.

good one!

At the time, they thought there were WMD in Iraq, before they thought there weren't.
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jluetjen 03-23-2007 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by on-ramp

what do you call a leader/congress who illegally invades a small country based on WMD lies and wrecks havoc and destruction upon their people?

"Illegally" suggests breaking a law, constitution or contract. Could you please specify which were the particular clauses of which law(s) were violated.

Victor 03-23-2007 03:10 AM

Fast paste from Wikepedia for you confused American kiddies - see if you can find the hidden answer(s):

"An insurgency, or insurrection, is an armed uprising, or revolt against an established civil or political authority. Persons engaging in insurgency are called insurgents, and typically engage in regular or guerrilla combat against the armed forces of the established regime, or conduct sabotage and harassment in the land in order to undermine the government's position as leader.

An insurgency differs from a resistance both in its political overtones and in the nature of the conflict: an insurgency connotes an internal struggle against a standing, established government, whereas a resistance connotes a struggle against invading or occupying foreign forces and their collaborators."

This is in fact, champagne comedy if you think about it.

kach22i 03-23-2007 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Victor
you confused American kiddies
Verses the other kind?

http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/2007/03/
http://www.blogdemagog.com/images/hamas.jpg

That's a good definition by the way, perhaps we should be calling them The Resistance. :)


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