Is this what i have to look forward to?
 

broke the 911 out for the first time this weekend, i have owned her for a month and a half but never got to really drive her. Within the first hour i must have been challenged 4 times... twice by corvettes, one by a 5.0 mustang and 1 by some ugly-ass subaru. Held my own against all of them , in a safe manner,didn't really push it too hard since i don't really know the car yet. I don't want to feed into any of this racing stuff, after all i brought the car to enjoy not street race,however if the situation is right i can't see myself backing down considering the raw power of that 3.2....so i guess i'm back to my original question is this what i have to look forward to?

Seems to be my experience as well. I don't even bother trying. I'm sure a lot of these Civic's, etc are going to be faster than me in a straight line. Let them be!!

I do always get "the nod" from other Porsche owners, old and new, all the time though.

With all due respect, it's probably nothing to do with the car.
Nobody put a gun to your head and said "Race this corvette or I'll blow your brains out."

Wow, in 1 hour you got challenged to 4 more races than I've been challenged to in 25 years of Porsche driving!

It happens to me alot, but those are balanced out by the "hey, nice car, what year is it?" comments I get daily. It goes with the territory, I guess...

I've never been challenged to a race. Maybe it's the old vintage look of the long hood.

I suggest that in the future, you dominate these Speedracers by not taking the bait. You've driving a turbo-look 911. That's painting a bullseye on your back. Everybody wants to beat a Porsche. Even if it's close, they'll tell their friends they beat a Porsche. Your 911 looks like a
Turbo, but does not accelerate like on. Plus, there are 4-cylinder econoboxes out there with well over 300 hp. Stock. There are also cars out there with aftermarket superchargers, etc.

I suggest you defeat them by maintaining your dignity and just watching them show off. Your turbo-look 911 wins automatically......unless you play and lose.

+1 with Superman. Besides if you've only owned it for a month you have NO idea what these cars handle like at speed. You need to do some track DE's to learn what NOT to do when you're going fast in a 911. Save your speed for the track and keep your head while on the street.

I get that BS all the time I just laugh it off..some I just show them my 80's 911 still has the power ....

+1 to Superman

Seems everyone on the road wants to race me, but I let them all go by. I don't feel the need to prove anything, evidently they do. That wins it for me.

Happens once or twice every summer, last time met at the light with a rice canned civic. He revved, I follow suit (I'm in the right lane with my indicator on to turn, but he can't see this.) light changes, he popped first and jumped, I slowly turn right and the lady at the bus stop was laughing her head off. That would be the extent of sastifaction I give them....

I just give their car the "once over look", then I look at the driver, give em little chuckle and then just ignore them. makes em go bat****

I got me a Police Badge, That fixed that problem!!!

I was thinking the same thing....

Take it to the track, not the street. Nature has a way of culling the weaker specimens from the herd. Dont be one of them.

well.... myself being young and driving a shinny, loud, low and wide beast it happens quiet a bit.

however since i've been hitting up track days and auto-x's theres no need, not even an urge.

i found out a few key things that never really rang home before being at the track, like:
a) straight line fast does not make a fast car
b) driver is more important
c) brakes are more important
d) doing it all safely is 5x more important
e) its all myth unless there was a timing gun/ timing gates,

i drive a 69 chev daily, its got a cammed 327, 750cfm double pumper holly, hooker headers, 12" of rear rubber, 3.83:1 locking rear end through a turbo 400 tranny, sits about 3" off the ground, its like 3/10 stop lights someone next to me is reving there engine.

do you know how much in gas that would be to entertain their request?

in an empt street that is visible and not wet it can be fun, however going looking for races or accepting every challange is like looking for trouble, most other drivers on the road are not anticipating the speed which can easily be reached.

give them a smile and a head shake, they will understand. However i find it wierd when people on the forum deny ever doing it, or act like its a cardinal sin. somehow i doubt anyone owning a 911 has not sped or accelerated hard from a red light. When i go to porsche events even with half of the 'mature' drivers they are passing breifly desposte the no-pass regulations and such...


expect it, and find your comfortabke way of dealing with it. Chance are if the tranny has not been recently put together and strengthened it will not take much of abuse.
SmileWavy

Happens all the time in my mini van. Corvette guys will challenge anything for attention.

Great stories, I went to an AutoZone Saturday for some leather cleaner. This kid is standing outside smoking a butt. He says, "wanna go pink"? I guess referring to that reality show on Speedvision. He says, it's got twin turbos. I said, maybe I'll see you at Limerock, were brakes, driver and handling matter. He nodded. Was all in good fun. But I also get many more "nice car" comments than racing offers.

I've posted on this before... happens all the time here in the south; biggest offenders are the guys in their pick'em up trucks! :rolleyes:

Here's the way I like to handle it: Get in front of them @ a stop light. Sloooowly creep off the line in first gear; QUICKLY (but gracefully) shifting into 2nd and flooring it!!! The smooth acceleration in this gear is usually too much for them to anticipate... leaves em' behind everytime! SmileWavy

Its the kids in the hopped up civics and such mostly. I get it in my Boxster.

I had some a55hole pass me going about 120mph on I-5, evidently because he thought I was racing him, or perhaps just showing off. I came down a very long on-ramp here in seattle (oliveway north in downtown), and I hit it pretty hard. The ramp was empty, pavement dry, and I just felt like hearing some fine flat six music. By the time I got to the freeway, I had braked, and entered traffic at normal speeds.

I had not even noticed who was behind me. It was some guy in a E55 mercedes. He came screaming down the ramp behind me, and cut across the triangle shaped island where the on-ramp meets the freeway. He shot out on to the freeway, not braking a bit, cutting across 3 lanes of traffic, well in excess of 100. It was insane. Ok, stud, you win. I guess my fear of killing someones loved one just got the best of me. Maybe I can be a big man like you next time. :rolleyes:

Like I tell Our Son when he is about to do something stupid or dangerous "Your better than that."

Save the speed for the track. Too many opportunities to get someone innocent hurt. Ego is best satisfied by a knowing glance with a good measure of composure.

Whether the "challenges" truly happened or not...
you need to learn to ignore people and things that simply
do not matter in your life.

and drive the 911 like helll too

Re: Is this what i have to look forward to?
 

It's a good thing the other cars weren't pushing it :)! Your 911 is no match for any of the above in straight line acceleration and you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. These cars are ALL about handling imo...

Avoid eye contact with owners of lesser cars, unless they are female and hot of course.;)

In other words, don't look at ANY other cars (no matter how much faster they are than you) :)!

Yes, all the more reason to ignore them.:D

Ok, so what do you have to prove?
- That you're faster than a hairy chested guy wearing gold chains and driving a Vette?
- That you're faster than a mullet head in a 5.0?
- That you're faster than a pimple faced, techno-thumping kiddie in an import?

Like stated before, sign up for a track day with Porsche Club at a local track. Trust me, it is an eye opening experience.

Just like there is no crying in baseball, there is no braking at Lime Rock!

Ok, maybe there is a little braking, but not a whole lot if you want to turn a quick lap.... ;)

-Z-man, headin' up to Lime Rock in about 2 weeks...

I was coming back from lunch yesterday, had the top down (beautiful 80 degree day), stopped at a light. Some kid pulled up next to me is some POS civic with a fart pipe. The only thing that was holding the car together was the rust. He kept gunning the engine, sounded like a weed wacker, and as soon as the light turned green, he tears ass down the road. I just left the light normally, as he is looking back at me through his back hatch. Well about a quarter mile down the road is an overpass where the cops sit all day, apparently he did not know this. Lights flash he is pulled over. I just drive by and wave. HA HA HA HA!!!!

Realistically it happens to me all the time. I work in a military town where 75% of the population is between the age of 19-24. They all drive ricers and all want to challenge a 16 year old car because it says Porsche.

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so he mentioned "twice by corvettes, one by a 5.0 mustang and 1 by some ugly-ass subaru" and you think a 3.2L car is too slow to handle any of those?

I suggest that with a decent driver and a 3.2L car that's in good shape it should be able to handle mustang GTs from all years except the last 3-5. Especially if they really were 5.0L mustangs since those are quite old now. Mustangs have mostly been coming with 4.6L engines for probably 10 years now.

If the corvettes were from the late 80's or early 90s then I'd expect them to be pretty even. Anything past that, I don't know.

Ugly subaru, it's possible, that he wasn't racing an XTI.

3.2L cars are not slow at all. all of the mags tested them at anywhere from 5.2-6.1 0-60. Most people probably don't hammer them like that, but they are still not slow by any means.

I think some people have an overactive imagination.

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Maybe you are confusing a 911 with my miata that does 0-60 in 8 or 9 seconds, but it is all about the handling.

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It's not that a 3.2 is too slow...it's just the other cars mentioned (with the 'possible' exception of the unnamed subaru) are without a doubt faster in "drag race". Now the twisties are a whole 'nuther matter :).

I rarely get challenged in the 930... but it does have a very aggressive exhaust and a "turbo" badge.

Strangely, friends of mine who have piloted the car w/o me on board say that they get challenged frequently.

Some of it is in the eye of the beholder.

JP

It does seem that driving the 911 brings out the inner racer in other people on the road. It isn't as bad in the 944 but it still happens. Must be the PORSCHE name that does it.
I find that just driving at normal speed you will pass cars who's drivers then feel they need to speed up to blast pass you a mile down the road.

Like others have said, it's best to ignore them.

I regularly get comment on the 911 from neighbors and people out and about. The kid outside Autozone who commented "Nice! I love Old School" was the funniest, like 1987 is old? I guess it's older than the kids that are driving now...

I raced everybody I could in the Subaru. Its even worse now, I get in the turbo and turn the key, and cars materialize in my driveway that I get to race.

In truth, it happens some where some retards wants to race, but mostly I get thumbs up, hell I even had a Cayenne flash their lights on Sunday and wave to me. I usually just smile and let the other person be a dumbass.

On a related note though, these threads pop up probably a couple of times a month, and I get pretty damn tired of all the "go to track comments". I don't know why it annoys me, but it does. I don't have a problem with the track, I think its cool if you have the time and $. I don't have the time, I have a 4 year and a 1 year old. Someday I'll have the time, but for now I limit excessive use of the loud pedal to when I am merging onto the interstate where its safes to use some of the power these car make.

Rant off.

Bill

By no means am I endorsing any type of stop to stop light racing or street racing of any type with my comments above.