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True, but it's kinda like mom staying home, many don't have the "means" for that, but are also never driving a car older than 3 years old, have all the latest clothes, gadgets, travel, etc.
"Means" are often determined by priorities. (But I do agree, the costs of college have far outpaced inflation and are way more than they were 20 years ago when I was in school. No doubt there are a lot that could not afford to pay no matter how hard they try or how well they prioritize). |
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I don't know about having my parents paying for everything (I have been mowing lawns since I was 11 and had a summer job since I was 14). Basically, the more careful I am with my money, the harder I work and the more I save, the more my parents are willing to help me with and the more stuff the buy for me, because I am showing work ethic.
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With an emphasis on "after graduation".
At the GF's house there was a kid at the "party-house" across the street reciting sad classic poetry on an early sunday morning, followed by episodes of puking, followed by "the old man is going to hate me for getting kicked out" (40K+/yr school tuition down the drain). |
OTOH the kid should think about what the parents have to face. For us as parents, no SSI no health insurance etc...
To those who think that people that take out loans can't make it, I give you my example. Every expense (other than tuition) at the high school level I basically paid for, including purchase of a car. (I'm not sure about insurance, but I think I did that too). At the college level, and beyond, it was all on my own dime + interest. For all the years in postgrad training getting secretarial wages, I got by and paid the loans. Now I have just a house payment and trying to get the retirement funds going. May not be a gazillionaire, and perhaps even boring, but I think my family's doing OK. Oh and BTW, I am extremely grateful to my parents for their sacrifices and for teaching me that money doesn't grow on trees. |
My parents paid my undergrad tuition and housing 100%. I had to cover everything else.
I worked full-time summers and saved just about every penny to cover my school-year expenditures. I never worked during the school year, and I think that is important. I studied a lot and partied a lot too. Both are important parts of the college experience - and I mean that with sincerity. If you didn't party hard in school, sorry but you missed out big time. Had I delivered poor grades, the parents might have cut me off. They should have and I would've expected that. That actually was a good arrangement all the way around. I certainly came out of it with an appreciation for the value of a dollar and managed my money well. I put myself through grad school. I will do similar with my kids. |
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Current-day politics and our demonstrated desire to start/perpetuate wars all over the world aside - what's wrong with the military? Honestly I'd encourage (but not demand) that my kids to consider a 4 or 6 year stint in the service upon reaching age 18. When they got out, they'd be a HELL of a lot more mature, confident, focused and capable. Not to mention the tuition benefits. If they played their cards correctly, they'd have real-world experience (military service), formal college training and if necessary a graduate degree and MINIMAL cost/loans by the time they were 28. That ain't too bad a way to enter the job market.
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Re: To those that feel like the have kill themselves financially to save for college...
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I almost killed myself working my way through college and then borrowing my way through law school. My grades reflected my priorities, which were 1) survival and 2) school. My college experience was not particularly pleasant for these reasons and I regret that.
It will be one of the great joys in my life to ease my kids' entry into the real world by helping them with college, keeping their priorities straight, and making their educational experience and early adulthood a pleasent experience. We're saving enough in a 529 account to pay for all of a state school or most of a private school. The pinch per month isn't really noticable. I'll make them contribute something so they have some skin in the game, and I'll make sure they understand that their job is to work hard a school. They can work summers, maybe work study during the school year. And if I have the means and they have the inclination, I will be happy to help them with their weddings. I have been fortunate in my life. We are a family. It gives me great joy to share my good fortune with my family. I don't think they'll grow up to take it for granted or get spoiled. |
I worked every summer, many working for the county picking up trash and other menial labor. It taught me quickly that this is not what I want to do the rest of my life. I came out of school owing well over $100k. I can't say it really affected me. Sure, some kids lived in homes their parent bought them and drove new cars while I didn't own one until after I graduated (1985 Saab 900T). I see my older daughter growing up expecting everything and not realizing what it takes to get there. She's a great kid, but most her age are the same way. It's hard to have a child thats never had to work hard and expect them to realize the good fortune they have. To those that don't have kids or teenagers yet, you'll see what I mean.
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