Lubby I'll let U talk to Mother for awhile...

Everybody has a million excuses as to why they just can't do it. It goes straight to the character of the person they are, a take charge kind of man who is willing to confront his problems or one who would rather live in fear and denial scared of his own shadow.

People are selective digesting their info as to how the world can be enjoyed.

Drugs and traditional therapy can all be reduced to short term behavior therapy imo.

Tabs,

Sometimes you have to come to grips with your limitations. Not everything is changeable or solvable. I'm not being pessimistic, just realistic. We tend to have this idealised idea of ourselves, by that I mean a sort of a superman image that is fantastic in everyway. The problem is that the reality is somewhat different, but there's nothing wrong with that. Its just that it can take many life events to see through that fog of fantasy. This is not easy and depression and the potentially resulting breakdown I believe are caused by this confusion about what we are. Relationships,family,upbringing etc etc are all thrown into the mix. I have found ( the hard way) to accept certain things about myself, and believe me I have far fewer bouts of anxiety that I once had. Also, I've never taken medication of any kind to deal with this, just a lot of contemplation and clear thinking.

Munro your on the road aren't U....

One day I woke up and found myself in he11 and decided to climb out. So ultimately everything is changeable and solvable. It has nothing to do with being a Superman, its just a matter of what you want and how badly you want it. It doesn't come overnight nor does it come easy, but it is attainable.

So U would call 34 years of changed behavior "Short Term" LOL... I tend to think that shows your ignorance and or prejudices.

TABS,
Honestly, things are very good right now. I am not sure that they could get much better! If the 10mg of calm along with a positive outlook and the ability to come to grips and talk through some ideas and feelings are what is making life a feast, so be it. What is the prob?

How much better do you want me to be? I think I have it down pretty tight right now.

I just want to thank all of you for the interesting debate... just when I am convinced you are nothing but a bunch of incorrigible hedonistic scalawags you all come her and bare your souls.

I have danced with the devil in the dark moonlight and wrestled with drugs/demons/depression on my own and have the scares to prove it.

I don't pretend to be bright enough to offer advice on the subject but my personal experience with friends and family is that we are all unique. Some of us need drugs and/or counseling and some can just tough it out... I don't know how to tell the diff... I'll leave that to more brainy people than I.

But seriously, very enlightening debate.

Thanks,

SmileWavy

2 years ago, I almost killed myself:( My ex who I was in engaged to for 18 months broke it off 1 month before the wedding. They had a party to welcome me into the family I mean I went with her on family vacations it was like we were already married. Its surreal even 2 years later she just text me late at night saying it was over no fight, no warning. I just sat up in shock all night long. I'm still coping with it I have good days and not so good .http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1175981623.jpg

that sucks, Tony. some people are just crazy. you deserve someone that will make you happy over many years and this person was obviously not it.. i remember being devasted in college and in my early 20s over break-ups. a few times it's taken me a couple of years to "get over it".

#1 rule: DESTROY ALL PICTURES and other items that remind you of that person.

let time pass and you will be OK again.

Yeah, i agree. Even with all the stupid Crap that gets slung around here, this just proves how PPOT is a community if caring and sharing.

In the dark of the night, you will find a gleaming light. As you come near, a friend will appear, And he (she) will look like a...
Pelican.

you shouldn't confirm your ignorance until you do some current research or at least ask for more info before you let your ego gain control.

And your mind is so shallow you can't perceive who you're dealing with.

so tabs...

You worked your way out of the funk of a few months ago re: your own mortality? Tell us how!!

Stress is physically destructive. Figuring out what is grinding at you, and changing it, may save your physical health and prolong your life, to say nothing of your mental state.

About two months after I quit my first career, I was in a campervan in New Zealand feeling very calm, when I realized in two months of nothing doing anything particularly healthy, I'd lost 20 pounds and my resting pulse was down 20 points. It was amazing.

At other times, I've had arthritis attacks that my doctors believed were stress-related, so severe that I was crippled, couldn't walk at all.

Right now I think I have my stress level under control. I work in an inherently somewhat volatile business, but things are okay. If they weren't, I'd have to change things. I don't want to live 20 fewer years because of a job, and neither should you (I know, your stress may not be job-related, but that's just an example).

I have a question in mind about U, which I don't have the answer to? Were U having aniexty attacks because at some level U sensed your wifes illness and the attacks were the way it manifested itself? If thats the case U don't need the Happy Pills to make life a Feast.

I don't believe that U in paticular need the Happy Pills to make life a feast. What takes me aback more than anything is your resistance to being adventerous and exploring somethng new. The lack of inquistivness with your being a scientist amazes me. My image of U is that you would be the first one to jump in with both feet to find out what is at the bottom of it all. The defensivness raise more questions than the original complaint.

Was it Time Magazine or Newsweek that you get your information from?

Interesting and helpful thread.

I've been working straight for 2 and a half years without a break, my work is intense and highly accountable (politically). I started taking a nose-dive just before xmas with a couple of minor changes at work and I've been on slippery slope of anxiety, sweats and depression. I took myself off to a psych (covered by work), she identified just how much damage I was doing to myself by not taking leave regularly (we get about 4 weeks a year here), and she was highly critical of my managers for not managing staff leave.

I'm on leave at the moment, but have been called up and asked to come back a week early... immediately the sweats have cranked up again and I'm feeling depressed with the thought of returning to work. Frankly I'm p!ssed off for being bothered by work whilst on leave.

I've decided to look at changing jobs - but I don't like swapping about jobs... I think it can look bad to prospective employers. But more importantly I'm worried I might be experiencing a clinical depression. This thread has helped me decide to head off to my doctor for a talk.

Cheers

If U asked my opinion your sooo pissed off at the postion that the managers put you in, that you repress the anger to the point it leaves you shaking. cause U can't stomach the BS anymore..Who the fk ever said that modern life had any sanity to it...the bozos who run things are just that Bozos and they call what they do sane...What people or employers think be damed, its what makes you happiest is what counts, the employer doesn't have to go home with you at night and sleep in your bed. And U are responsible for your own happiness, nobody can do it for U.

thanks for the confirmation

Well now at least U can be better informed...

John,

Your company doesn't care about you. They will work you like a dog , from morning to night until you are begging for more. YOU are the ideal worker in their eyes. they Love you!... i've been in a similar situation, giving it my all... but in the end, you are only hurting yourself.

Always take care of yourself first. I used to work with this guy, he would come in the office religiously at 8AM and leave 5PM, ON THE DOT! His philosophy was, they pay me for 8 hours, I work for 8 hrs, period! that's what I give.

And he did well for himself. .

I think your problem is your guilt. this is gonna kill you unless you take control of it. if i was on vacation, and going what you're going through, and my company called to come in early, i'd be ****** PISSED. how dare they!
good luck.