Legion, call there anonymously and ask when the lady has her next day off. DMV workers are usually union and thus have many days off. Show up then. There are ways around incompetent bureaucrats.

As for you, Supe, I think you're the only person on the planet who thinks government bureaucrats and civil servants give better service than private enterprise employees. Post a poll...90% will disagree with you. I guess you haven't worked around Department of Education types much (I have). Although I know from your OT posts that you think there's no problem that more government can't solve, your conclusions are delusional.

......and I know from this post of yours that you make stuff up as you go along. You're a good example of the interesting practice of exaggerating and/or accusing someone of something that is completely untrue.......and then pointing out how absurd that postion is. Have a nice conversation with yourself. If you want to exchange views with me that's great, but it'd be frustrating for you. You'd have to deal with my actual positions on issues, rather than your mischaracterizations.

And if that happens, you won't like what I have to say about your ignorant assumptions about the connection between public service.....unions.....and days off. What an obvious axe you have to grind when you make statements like:

"DMV workers are usually union and thus have many days off."

Then again, it's easier to hate stuff you know very little about. And after all, maintaining hatred is pretty important. eh? Placing blame. Enjoy yourself. The people I work with daily who are actually figuring out what the problems are and solving them......those people have neither your level of hatred nor your level of ignorance.

I didn't read your last post before responding...my bad...you are more balanced than I gave you credit for, and I was reactionary.

I do have an axe to grind due to years of working with incompetent union bureaucrats at various levels of the public education system. If you ever wonder why our schools are churning out kids that are dumber than doorknobs...and the worst part of it is that unions have such power in education that real changes will never happen in the system. It's really depressing. That's why I got out of public education and into technology training.

I've gathered from your posts that you're involved somehow in consulting government (and other?) agencies in improving workflow and public relations and what not, and that's an admirable thing! Don't take my union/government insults personally.

You have your experiences, and I have mine, lets just leave it at that.

Fair enough. For the record, I am a labor relations guy. I work with unions and employers and public construction contract "owners." For the most part, I find that Labor representatives here do a good job of representing construction workers and cooperating with employers and owners. There are exceptions, but the construction labor community here is generally very cooperative.

I've heard from a number of credible sources that unionism is out of control in the education system. I accept that. And....I consider education to be vital to our national security. It is THE important issue. So, I would support some serious reform.

Here's another thought: If this industry is so big and powerful that an organization such as Labor can weild this level of clout, then I wonder what happens when and if we privatize this industry. Some of you are going to dismiss this concern out of hand due to your very elegant and simple conclusion that corporations can be trusted to do the "right thing." Private industry does want to get its hands on our education money. And its purpose will not be to ensure a proper education for our kids. Sure, they'll have to visibly perform in this area in order to be successful, but they'll be in the industry to make money. Education will become a spinoff effect. If that.

Privatization is like freedom. Our freedoms are under attack. We must be vigilant to protect them. Once a freedom has been lost, it doesn't come back. Same with privatization. Industry tries hard to "capture," as much as possible, the markets it sees. We don't see industries taken away from private businesses and placed into the public domain. When (not if) we lose the electric power industry, we will be forced to deal with, basically, a large profiteering monopoly. Power bills will move in the same direction as telephone bills did after that industry was deregulated. Some of you guys are convinced that we will have better education while saving money. Your expectaton is without precedent, and the work at stake here is the education of our nation's children.

Right now, we have as much control over this industry as we ever will. Unions have some control too, and their power is not greater than that of the public and its interest in protecting education. The union problems can be dealt with, since this industry is still owned by us. The citizens. The taxpayers.

Later, after privatization, our control will be gone except for the regulating that will become necessary. Some of you think that capitalism ensures that the public is properly served. I think you're dreaming.