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sammyg2 04-20-2007 08:23 AM

Just bought a new Tundra. Wow.
 
Brought home a new 2007 Toyota tundra last night, this thing is huge!
it's almost twice the size of the 2002 tundra I traded in, but doesn't drive that heavy or bulky.
It's got more than enough power to smoke those "other" trucks, can you say hemi? It has plenty of room, comfortable ride, good quality, and it was made in San Antonio Texas.
Oh, and it's got brakes that are over 13" with 4 piston calipers.
The first time I got on them it nearly threw me into the wind screen ;)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1177082477.jpg

Sorry for the picture quality, the sprinklers were on which is ironic because we are right in the middle of the worst storm of the season. They are predicting up to 1/2" of rain, but I think they are exaggerating.

pwd72s 04-20-2007 08:27 AM

I've heard they're good trucks...does the roof clear your garage opening?

M.D. Holloway 04-20-2007 08:30 AM

Sammy,
Those are the best trucks available hands down!

sammyg2 04-20-2007 08:33 AM

No clue about the garage, that's where the Porsche and momma's car sleep.
I must be twisted. My new $30k truck sits outside in the rain and my $13k 911 sits in the garage all nice and dry and comfy.

Schrup 04-20-2007 08:40 AM

Nice truck, I checked one out at the spring fair last night. The Toyota rep said they made a lot of them & that deals could be had. I asked him if it was possible to get one around $500 over invoice & he said yes, which surprised me because they're the hot new rig. He may have been blowing smoke though.

It looks like they did a good job engineering them, the Titan had brake problems when they released them in 2004, but seem to have fixed it, but rear end failures seem to still be an issue. I would be leery of buying a first year truck, but he said they tested them for 3 years before release & the problems should be minimum.

I'm very happy with the Titan I bought 6 months ago, I got it for under $20k. I priced a new Tundra on Edmunds with the same options as my truck, it was nearly $9k more. I hope you got a good deal, enjoy your new truck, nice color.

livi 04-20-2007 08:47 AM

That is a giant! Very nice color.

No, you are not crazy. At the moment my 911 is sitting in my parents garage - leaving their brand new $50k SAAB outside in the rain. I think it is more than fair. First, the younger should leave room for the older. Second, the new car has a much better corrosion protection. It is only logical. At least it would be...if it was my garage..

sammyg2 04-20-2007 08:53 AM

I paid sticker of $28,800 with several goodies, but got about $1000 more than blue book on the trade-in so it worked out pretty well.
I might have gotten it a little cheaper if I shopped around but I hate that.
I walked into the dealer and asked to test drive a couple of them.

After we got back from the test drive I told them they have 2 hours to put me in a new truck because I had an appointment to go to I couldn't miss.
That made them cut down on the games quite a bit. My impression is that they are willing to deal on them and that Toyota is offering incentives at least for a little while. My credit score helped.

They had at least 20 of these trucks on the lot so they have no problem with getting the volume.

BTW, I just checked. The front rotors are 13.9", the rears are 13.6".
The older tundras had weak brakes so they went overboard fixing that problem.
No, I'm not going to paint those big 4 piston calipers red ;)

Aerkuld 04-20-2007 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
No clue about the garage, that's where the Porsche and momma's car sleep.
I must be twisted. My new $30k truck sits outside in the rain and my $13k 911 sits in the garage all nice and dry and comfy.

;)Well, if it's any comfort don't forget that it was a $30k truck yesterday. It's probably only a $25k truck today.;)

Congrats Sammy.
My Dad was over a couple of months ago and we were out looking at trucks. Those things are awesome!

HardDrive 04-20-2007 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aerkuld
;)Well, if it's any comfort don't forget that it was a $30k truck yesterday. It's probably only a $25k truck today.;)

Not the Toyotas. Amazing resale value.

Beautiful truck Sammy. Great color.

thrown_hammer 04-20-2007 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
No clue about the garage, that's where the Porsche and momma's car sleep.
I must be twisted. My new $30k truck sits outside in the rain and my $13k 911 sits in the garage all nice and dry and comfy.

Your not twisted. Now if you kept a $4,000 old Beetle in the garage then you are twisted... :D

masraum 04-20-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Just bought a new Tundra. Wow.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
we are right in the middle of the worst storm of the season. They are predicting up to 1/2" of rain, but I think they are exaggerating.
Hahahah. You call that rain? That ain't nothin'. Come to Houston or let me take you to FL and I'll show you rain.

Nice Truck, now you can go post on that board and brag about intimidating people in little cars. ;) Methods are included in the owner's manual, right? Things like maximum distances to tail gate, when to use high beams, and that sort of thing. :D

JavaBrewer 04-20-2007 10:57 AM

I'm not keen on the chrome, especially the grill, but that is a great P/U. The new trucks drive so nice and have so much power - you may find yourself riding the bumber of many *sports* cars...on the freeway at least.

competentone 04-20-2007 11:01 AM

Re: Just bought a new Tundra. Wow.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
Brought home a new 2007 Toyota tundra last night, this thing is huge!
it's almost twice the size of the 2002 tundra I traded in....

I kind of liked the "90% of a full-size" old Tundra. I want a truck bigger than my Ford Ranger, but don't think I want something as big as full size. I may end up looking at a Dakota.

I wish they would have kept the old Tundra and just brought the new one on as a new line instead of a replacement.

Aerkuld 04-20-2007 11:06 AM

You could have bought a Chevy and gone out and raced some 911's.

BlueSkyJaunte 04-20-2007 11:34 AM

Nice truck. 'yotas are good vehicles. I used to own a '98 RAM 2500; when I drove a Tundra for the first time I wanted to cry--it was so much nicer.

I saw a new Taco the other day, I think that thing is scaled up too. It's certainly quite a bit larger than my wife's old Prerunner. Good and bad--I couldn't fit easily in the Prerunner but the small overall size of the vehicle was convenient.

NICKG 04-20-2007 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardDrive
Not the Toyotas. Amazing resale value.

Beautiful truck Sammy. Great color.

that ain't no lie...my wife and i had several tacomas, we get almost what we paid on the 01 when we traded it in and actually got more than we paid (we buy new) on out 04 tacoma xtra cab 4x4 v6 color coded sr5...boy i miss that truck. we traded it on an 05 tundra...
For me, you cannot get a better truck than a toyota, i would not evenm consider buying another brand.
I have a old 91 toyota pick up, 2wd, basic truck 139k miles...it is at my parents and peopl are constantly asking if i will take 2500 for it... ebven the 2wd tacomas are selling used for almost what they were new here.

GET A TRD EXHAUST! I work for the company that makes them...it is awesome

campbellcj 04-20-2007 11:04 PM

Nice truck Sammy! Same story here about the garage -- the ol' 914 and the 90K mile Audi park there while the wife's new-ish Land Crusher sits outside. That thing is too effin' huge to walk past when it's squeezed into the garage anyway ;)

the 04-20-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Just bought a new Tundra. Wow.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
They are predicting up to 1/2" of rain
SO CAL STORM WATCH 2007!!!!!!!

kach22i 04-21-2007 06:58 AM

Looks like a Dodge.

Tobra 04-21-2007 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thrown_hammer
Your not twisted. Now if you kept a $4,000 old Beetle in the garage then you are twisted... :D
My mom does that, but it is closer to $7000 and it is sitting next to Dad's 911, both convertibles. New Lincoln and Chevy Tahoe in driveway.

Nice truck, My father in law paid about that for a crew cab GMC 3/4 ton with a turbo diesel V-8, 6 speed and leather interior a few years ago. Heavy duty everything, towing package with diff cooler etc, and would pull his 5th wheel trailer, or whatever he wanted to pull with it better than two of yours could.

That said, if I were buying a truck, it would be just like yours

IROC 04-21-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Just bought a new Tundra. Wow.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
It has plenty of room, comfortable ride, good quality, and it was made in San Antonio Texas.
And the engines are made about 5 miles from my house right here in Alabama!

Henry Schmidt 04-21-2007 08:41 AM

2002 Tundra with 211,000, 90,000+ towing a race car.
One bad wheel bearing, right front. The same corner hit in an accident.
30 years of Fords. I can't say I'll never own another brand but I really love this Toyota truck.
The new ones seem even better.

sammyg2 04-21-2007 12:57 PM

I've put 100 miles on it so far and have a few observations:
It's a bit heavier than the old truck but has better brakes and more power. The suspension is just as stiff but doesn't feel stiff. the harshness of the TRD suspension on my old truck is gone completely. It's smooth but not soft, quiet but not sloppy.

It is also a packrat's dream, cubby holes everywhere you look.

It is very, very comfortable but almost to a fault. I liked my old tundra because it was a bit smaller and nible, kind of like a sports car truck.
Comaring the old one to the new one is like comparing an old long hood 911 to a 996.
The 996 is faster, more powerful, more refined, handles better, and is probably quicker around hte track but doesn't have that raw feel that makes it so much fun to drive.
In the same way, driving this new truck is almost like sitting on the sofa playing a video game.
The only real difference is, I don't need to feel the road when sitting in traffic. I don't need to feel the exilleration of finely tuned but raw suspension on the 91 freeway at rush hour. I don't need to feel that excitement when the cruise control is set at 75 on I-10 or I-40.

This truck does make sense for what I need. A commuter vehicle that can comfortable carry my entire family, and is big enough for us to drag the waverunners to the river with no hassles or go visit the grandparents on Arizona. At the same time it reportedly gets the same mileage as the old truck and runs cleaner. And I love the seats. More comfortable than my barkolounger.

Before the last tundra I had a chevy silverado. I really liked it but it has some quirks I didn't like.
I can honestly say that so far, this truck is the best designed and best built vehicle I have ever owned. (knock on wood).

Plus you gotta admit that a dual overhead cam, all aluminum V8 engine with variable valve timing has the cool factor just about sewn up.

89911 04-21-2007 01:44 PM

I was checking out one at a dealer and I couldn't get over how G Dam big that thing is! Seems it could fit anyone needs. I have always liked Toyota's and just bought a 2002 Sequoia Limited as my beater.

sammyg2 06-22-2007 07:26 AM

3000 miles update, I finally found something I don't like about this truck:

It has a 26.5 gallon fuel tank but the dumb yellow empty warning light comes on and the fuel gauge shows empty with 6 gallons left.
First couple of times I filled up I only got about 20 gallons.
After calculating the mileage I can now predict how much fuel is left after the light comes on but I still usually fill up with about 3 gallons left.

BTW, I mostly drive the truck in rush hour traffic, sometimes 70 mph but usually below 25. I enjoy jack-rabbit starts and stops, I don't drive like I am trying to conserve at all, the air conditioner is usually on, and I am getting a consistant 15.9 mpg.
Not bad, that's slightly better than the 2002 tundra I traded in even though the new truck is bigger, heavier, and has 31 more hp and a redline almost 1000 rpm higher.

onewhippedpuppy 06-22-2007 07:34 AM

Very nice. If I was in the market for a new truck, it would look just like that. Can't beat a Toyota truck, our 4Runner has been perfect over 65k. I have a feeling I'll regret selling it.

widebody911 06-22-2007 07:53 AM

Cue Kaisen to rant on the evil of Japanese cars in 4... 3... 2...

IROC 06-22-2007 08:09 AM

Yep, I towed my car to the track for the first time last weekend behind my 2001 Tacoma DoubleCab. Four passengers, bed loaded with tools, canopy, chairs, coolers, etc. + the car and trailer and the truck pulled it great and I got over 16 mpg.

Toyota makes some great trucks. I've owned 6 and each of them have been great.

kaisen 06-22-2007 08:16 AM

1....My spidey senses were tingling......

Japanese brands are not evil, and I haven't posted anything negative to this thread
I'm glad to hear Sammy is happy with his purchase

I've driven the new Tundra at length and there are certainly positives
Choices make the world go round

E

sammyg2 06-22-2007 08:17 AM

LOL, I dunno Thom, this truck was built in San Antonio, Texas (sal....ute) with more than 70% of parts manufactured in North America. Hard to get more American than that.
My last Chebby silverado was built in Canada with lots O'parts made in Mexico.

WolfeMacleod 06-22-2007 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sammyg2
3000 miles update, I finally found something I don't like about this truck:

It has a 26.5 gallon fuel tank but the dumb yellow empty warning light comes on and the fuel gauge shows empty with 6 gallons left.

That's something my wife has found with her new FJ Cruiser. It has a 19 gallon tank but she has yet to get more than 15 gallons in it from "empty". Thats fine with me since I would rather not have her run out of gas in her port-a-potty blue brick. Her gas mileage isn't much better thna yours either. She has the manual and is getting 17-18mpg. :rolleyes:

berettafan 06-22-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HardDrive
Not the Toyotas. Amazing resale value.



Vs. a Dodge maybe but resale is not such a great thing in Tundras. Tacos are a bit different (at least they were before they ruined them with the current design).

sammyg2 06-22-2007 11:19 AM

I put 70,000 miles on my 2002 tundra, it was in need of a good detailing but otherwise was in good shape. It was the old style (dated) and I still got $13k trade in for it.
I paid $23.5 for it, I prolly could have gotten $17k or more for it if I sold it privately. I'd say it held it's value pretty good.

BTW, they are giving away dodge rams in LA right now. $12k off of MSRP on the hemi rams. I saw an add for one for $18k today, and they said they had 5 at that price. Non-hemi extra cab rams were going for $16k.
Prolly have waaaay too many of them.
I don't want one of those trucks but for that price I would be tempted.
I'd sure be pissed if I bought one for full sticker 6 months ago.

kaisen 06-22-2007 12:14 PM

Sammy just pointed out one fallacy of resale value. Example using numbers in this thread: a $30,000 Dodge Ram is worth 'only' $6,000 five years from now. A $29,000 Tundra is worth $13,000 five years from now. But the Toyota's transaction price is $28,000 and the Ram is $18,000. Net depreciation: Toyota $15K, Dodge $12K.

Whether these numbers or examples are exactly correct, it still illustrates that resale value can be misleading. It's usually expressed as a retained percentage of original MSRP. But when you can buy one for 20% off MSRP you have to take that into consideration.

And, just to be clear, it has nothing to do with the merits of Toyota or Dodge, or any other brand.

NICKG 06-22-2007 12:39 PM

i don't know about that, but a used 91 2wd toyota will sell for 3000 easy here when thewere like 7500 new....
i have bought 3 new toyota trucks in the last 6 years, 2 tacoma extra cab 4x4's and 1 tundra...each time we traded it in, we got just abut what we paid for them new(save the tundra, lost 2500)
the 04 tacoma we actually had for a year and got MORE than we paid for it new...and i wasn't trading in on a fluff car...

onewhippedpuppy 06-22-2007 01:05 PM

My 2003 4Runner stickered at about $34k, I was asking $21k with 65k miles, and got pretty close to that.:) We will replace it with a 2004 Cadillac SRX, probably about 30k miles, pay about $22k. The SRX was about $52k new.

That's 38% depreciation for the 4Runner over 4 years, and 58% depreciation for the SRX over 3 years. Of course, this will bite us in the ass when we sell the SRX someday, but it's the only thing with a 3rd row seat that isn't a damn boat. It's tough to beat a Toyota for resale value.

IROC 06-22-2007 01:11 PM

I just checked NADA's website. I paid $21,500 for my DoubleCab brand new in 2000. Current NADA retail? $16025. Could I get that for it? I doubt it, but even if it's close, that some great retention of value.

Porsche virgin 06-22-2007 01:25 PM

I believe there are big incentives on these trucks now, including zero percent financing.

NICKG 06-22-2007 01:31 PM

not on tacomas...and while they have the 0% on tundras here, they won't take off $15000 from the selling price like a domestic. especially dodge right now, you can get like 20k off one here


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