Americans as Winners

[Superman]

We're butt-kickers. We kick asses and take names. We cannot stand a loser. The place on the podium for America is the top step. That's been our character.

Today........China has more honor students than we have students. India is right on their heels. Japan has been pumping out students that our college kids simply cannot compete with. Twenty years ago, it was an accepted rule that if the Asian proportion in a classroom is very high, the best thing to do is to drop the class. We cannot compete.

The world has been, and is becoming even more, a place where information and technical education........wins. Our sedentary, energy drink addicted, obese HS students cannot seem to handle the federally mandated achievement tests. HS seniors cannot find Kansas on a map, let alone Pakistan. Our "president" is creating, out of ignorance, as much confusion about science as he can while he's in power. How do you guys think America will stack up in twenty years?

[Zef]

It was predictable....!

[Rot 911]

I'm in just as long as we all agree up front that it is Bush's fault.

[Rick Lee]

This was Bush's fault even before he became president.

[The Gaijin]

Look at the birthrate in Japan and China. Both populations have peaked and will have many old people to support in a few years. The one child policy is creating all kinds of issues in China and Japan has effectivly the same problem.

Middle class birth rates in India are way down and they have huge poverty and infrastructure issues to deal with. And what is the dream of many top flight Indian students? To study and work in the U.S.

That we prefer to give visas to fruit pickers rather than high tech and other skilled workers is the biggest problem I see..

[Tobra]

Americans are fat, lazy and stupid and have been getting more so consistently over the last 20-30 years.

That is definitely Bush's fault, no question.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Rick Lee
This was Bush's fault even before he became president.

If you listen to many of the nay sayers on this forum, it was Bush's fault before he was born.

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by The Gaijin
Look at the birthrate in Japan and China. Both populations have peaked and will have many old people to support in a few years. The one child policy is creating all kinds of issues in China and Japan has effectivly the same problem.

Middle class birth rates in India are way down and they have huge poverty and infrastructure issues to deal with. And what is the dream of many top flight Indian students? To study and work in the U.S.

That we prefer to give visas to fruit pickers rather than high tech and other skilled workers is the biggest problem I see..

This is true. Japan's birthrate will cause them HUGE problems soon, especially since they tend to be the longest living people in the world too. China is a weird case. Almost no one under the age of 32 has any brothers or sisters and they have 119 men for every 100 women. Even if they sold all the N. Korean women as slave wives, there wouldn't be enough to go around. I'd be worried about a country with a military more than twice the sieze of ours where hundreds of millions of men can't get wives.

Funny thing about China's and India's spending is that China chose to spend most their money on infrastructure and development, while India chose to spend most of theirs on education. I doubt we'll ever see Chinese call centers, but Indian ones are almost all you come across nowadays.

[on-ramp]

I think Bush's intelligence is a good representation of the average American.

[azasadny]

All empires rise and fall, it's just our turn...

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by on-ramp
I think Bush's intelligence is a good representation of the average American.

You mean that most of us will be smart enough and good enough to be President some day? Oh yea, and a multi millionaire before being President?

Thats great news, I feel better already!

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by on-ramp
I think Bush's intelligence is a good representation of the average American.

Yeah, the average American has no problem getting through Yale or Harvard or flight school. Walk in the park.

[Joeaksa]

Hey Rick,

Is it just me or do you get the idea that OR will be in the lower 50 percentile on this?

Do many of these guys really think about what they are saying before hitting the "submit reply" button?

Joe
(Bush made me post the above, I had no control over my keyboard)

[Rick Lee]

Yeah Joe, you'd better not post anything bad here, since we all know we're being monitored by the Bush Gestapo.

[Superman]

The average American can recognize whether a childrens' book is right side up, or upside down. And the list goes on........

Yeah, birth rates will destroy this competition. Yeah, right. A third of the world's population lives in China.

That's right. Deny deny deny. Meanwhile, the rest of us will have a substantive discussion.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

So you guys are saying we'd be in this position if Clinton had been in office the last 6 years? or Gore? or McCain? or Bush 1? or Reagan?

and no, it couldn't be worse with any of them in office the past 6 years.

That you stand by the President is commendable. that you are part of 22% of the country who still does is something else.

[Superman]

I saw a bumper sticker recently: One Nation, Under Surveillance.

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
So you guys are saying we'd be in this position if Clinton had been in office the last 6 years? or Gore? or McCain? or Bush 1? or Reagan?

and no, it couldn't be worse with any of them in office the past 6 years.

That you stand by the President is commendable. that you are part of 22% of the country who still does is something else.

I don't recall anyone here commending the job Bush has done, especially since his job performance has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Superman
The average American can recognize whether a childrens' book is right side up, or upside down. And the list goes on........

The fact that you are unaware that was a photoshop is telling.

Your average American probably even figured that out

[Rick Lee]

This reminds me of the old George Carlin adage.

Imagine how dumb the average person is. And half the world is even dumber than that!

Watch Jay Leno's Jaywalking. Very scary stuff. Who's buried in Grant's Tomb? Who's the Geo. Washington Bridge named after?