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TerryBPP 04-26-2007 11:55 AM

Do I need a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?
 
I am considering buying a 2003 22' Sea Ray Cabin Crusier and I need to pick out a truck to tow it with. I'm looking at Dodge Rams and I'm not sure if a Ram 1500 will tow that much boat with ease. Do I need to bump up to a 2500? I'm not biased as to which brand the truck is so same applies to F150/250 & Chevy 1500/2500.

The ramp we kick off at is pretty steep so I want it to be effortless.

Any experience?

The Gaijin 04-26-2007 12:28 PM

It depends.

How often are you going to be hauling this thing?

You may want to rent an old duelie wheel box van from rent-a-wreck and save the monthly payment.

TerryBPP 04-26-2007 12:33 PM

We are pretty frequent boaters. You can pick up a decent used truck for $10k so i won't be making payments.:D

chapo 04-26-2007 01:05 PM

Go 3/4. A half ton could pull it, but the added safety with the 3/4's larger brakes and suspension are worth it. Plus, most of the larger trucks already have a nice frame mounted hitch installed.

ja78911sc 04-26-2007 01:06 PM

I have a 3/4 ton which I use for towing my car to the track. It is a 2000 Chevy work truck--paid around $9,000. Larger rear brakes vs. half ton. Suspension and brakes would be the two major differences. I have towed with my 2005 Tahoe and I prefer the 3/4 ton. The Tahoe works fine but the 3/4 ton feels safer driving--if that makes any sense. Personally, if I was towing a 22' boat, I would try to locate a 3/4 ton. Also, make sure you find a vehicle with a transmission cooler. My 2 cents.

Z-man 04-26-2007 01:34 PM

How much does the boat & trailer combined weigh? And how much stuff would you be packing in the pickup?

-Z

Groesbeck Hurricane 04-26-2007 03:33 PM

Without know more than you give, I'd say a 3/4 tonne, but a heavy 1/2 might easily do the job. How much weight are you planning to pull? I don't know how much those boats weigh...

Limited slip differential. Can't stress it enough!!! 3.73 rear end, 4.10 will give great towing, horrible fuel consumption.

VINMAN 04-26-2007 04:22 PM

A 1500 will tow that with no problem. But if you plan on towing it any kind of long distance, the 2500 will be a little more stable on the highway. Also are u planning on a regular cab, or extended cab? The longer wheelbase on the extra cab will add to the stabilty

pwd72s 04-26-2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ja78911sc
I have a 3/4 ton which I use for towing my car to the track. It is a 2000 Chevy work truck--paid around $9,000. Larger rear brakes vs. half ton. Suspension and brakes would be the two major differences. I have towed with my 2005 Tahoe and I prefer the 3/4 ton. The Tahoe works fine but the 3/4 ton feels safer driving--if that makes any sense. Personally, if I was towing a 22' boat, I would try to locate a 3/4 ton. Also, make sure you find a vehicle with a transmission cooler. My 2 cents.
All good advice. Also, 3/4 tons usually have heavier duty wheel bearings than the 1/2 tons...so, it's more than pulling power, springs, and brakes. Definitely a +1 here on the trans cooler advice. It easy to go too light on a tow vehicle choice, hard to go too heavy. :)

Dixie 04-26-2007 05:11 PM

Pick anything but a Dodge. Dodge has the worst build quality known to mankind.

Jim Bremner 04-26-2007 05:16 PM

If you've ever under bought anything before you'll buy a 3/4 truck now!



and I can't say enough about my cheby truck. My Dad, a long time ford guy says his next truck will be a cheby

KFC911 04-27-2007 04:22 AM

Re: Do I need a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TerryBPP
I am considering buying a 2003 22' Sea Ray Cabin Crusier ...
The ramp we kick off at is pretty steep so I want it to be effortless.

Any experience?

That size boat combined with steep, and WET boat ramps make a 3/4 ton almost mandatory imo... while a 1/2 'might' work don't even think about it...

VINMAN 04-27-2007 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Capt. Carrera
Pick anything but a Dodge. Dodge has the worst build quality known to mankind.
I beg to differ.... Ive always been a long time Ford person, Ive owned 6 ford trucks From a BroncoII up to a crew-cab F350.
My Dodge Ram 3500 It probably one of the best vehicles Ive owned. There is absolutely nothing wrong with its build quality. The truck is a tank.

KFC911 04-27-2007 04:38 AM

I concur Vinny, I've got a beater Ram 250 w/ 180K still going strong...

Tobra 04-27-2007 06:13 AM

Get a 3/4 ton, Chevy or Ford. These guys saying Dodge trucks are okay have just been lucky enough not to have problems with the brakes, or front end, or transmission that I heard about nearly every day when I lived in Texas.

If it does not have trans/diff cooler install one. If it has an 4 sp auto, tow in 3rd.

VINMAN 04-27-2007 07:09 AM

Every brand of vehicle has its problems.

pwd72s 04-27-2007 08:51 AM

Only a 1/2 ton...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1177692670.jpg

speeder 04-27-2007 11:00 AM

What you want is a Ford with the Dodge engine (Cummins) and the Chevy trans (Allison).

sammyg2 04-27-2007 01:53 PM

Toyota tundra dual cab 5.7 liter with tow package. More that you will ever need and confortable and fun to drive to boot. If you're gonna get a truck, you might as well get a good one.

I know better that to buy a chrysler product and would rather walk than drive a ford. I'm allergic to having a POS break down on me and leave me stranded. I'm also not fond of having little bits and pieces of plastic fall off while I'm driving.

Nostril Cheese 04-27-2007 02:21 PM

I'd have to second on the Dodge build quality

my uncle had a 2006 Ram 1500 with the 4.7L V-8

at 22K it needed new valve lifters

transmission went at 30k

he traded it in for a Toyota and hasnt had a problem since


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