I'll buy the new one if it has GPS and an iChat app. DONE.

That's a nice notion, RB, but all those physical changes you want sure would add a lot of moving (breakable) parts. And it might just be the size of my laptop when you're done with it.

I guess the new update localizes your position by triangulation from cell towers, not GPS. Not sure how accurate that is or what aquisiition time will be like.

My wife never answers my calls either, but her phone is plenty loud. There may be other issues... :)

a slide out keyboard and thumbwheel will never happen. Not needed, and totally flies in the face of the UI.

3rd party SDK comes out in Feb. It can read word/excel/powerpoint and pdf already. Manipulate? Does anyone edit office docs on a handheld? I tried once or twice...miserable experience. As for exchange and blackberry support, that'll likely get sorted.

Real dissappointed they didn't announce the Canadian (red-headed stepchild) launch. I heard sometime this year, but who knows. I don't care about the MS features, I just want a phone that always works, mail/text/WiFi work flawlessly. Tunes/Movies/Etc are just gravy for me, so this price is a little high for just the phone component but I saw a buddies, and I WANT ONE NOW!

Either Steve Jobs puts the Rogers Music store on the Iphone or Ted Rogers puts Itunes on his network. Both are stubborn so even if it did make business sense I doubt you will ever see the IPhone on Rogers or Fido networks.

The G phone is gonna be sweet.

just this morning i synched and it updated itself to the new os which is supposed to give you capability of sending an sms to multiple recipients. haven't figured out yet how it's done. anyone can help?

also, i don't know how to send a pic from phone to phone...

Dave: To send a picture, first go to the picture on your iPhone; then click the icon in the lower left corner (a box with an arrow coming out of it) then you will be given a few choices - pick "email photo".

To send an SMS to multiple recipients, goto the SMS/Text app, click the new text message button in the upper, right corner (square w/ a pencil in it) and hit the "+" button to add recipients; keep hitting "+" to add each new person . . .

Best,

Kurt

Well when you switch I will buy your old one! :D
I hope they unlock them after the 2 years of AT&T, otherwise I may end up hacking one.

thanks kurt! that helps a lot.

as for sending the pic though, how can i send an email pic to another phone instead of someone's email account?

3g access, see qualcom chip embargo, why would apple ship a phone that they would not have been able to sell

Vmail reminder, that's a pref not a feature, personnaly I hate it

I hear mine ring with no issues, pick a ringtine that does. Not blend with ambient noise. I have kids, anything melodic gets lost around their tv shows,toys etc. You need something obnoxious

Sometimes I think Apple could slap their logo on a turd and sell it for $700.

They tried that and it didn't work. :D

Newton and Mac Cube come to mind, among many others.

Best,

Kurt

True, but I was thinking more in the last 3-4 years.

Dave:

AFAIK, you can't send a picture to a phone number like a text message, but most phones have an email address that is often the phone number followed by the provider's domain like, 1115551234@tmobile.com. You gotta have that email address until Apple allows pics to be sent via SMS.

FWIW.

Best,

Kurt

How about Apple TV? It's been a turd so far, but may start selling now that Apple has movie rental deals with all of the studios.

Best,

Kurt

sorry for the barrage of questions but i need more help.

i did something, or maybe not and it just came w/ the os upgrade, but how do i switch off the instant email notifications? i just don't need to be THAT in tune w/ the world.

Dave:

Go to Settings > Mail > Auto-Check and set your preference!

Best,

Kurt

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Sounds like a great toy. Now, if they could come out with a phone.

How many other phones out there save your voicemails on the phone instead of on the network? IMHO: This is the single greatest feature of the iPhone. It saves me a ton of time and cell phone minutes.

And I was told that it lets you know who called so you only have to listen to messages that you want to listen to... How cool is that...

It's fantastic. My favorite feature.

I wish my Crackberry had it... iPhone also lets you get to Weight Watches... my crackberry does not allow that either... :(

so looking at the iphones and the hacks to use them on other networks seems great...but I have Verizon and damn it they don't use the chip in the phone! So I looked at some discussions on the Apple site and a quick search of the word "Montana" revealed that bone stock iphones get reception here as well as Nebraska, Wyoming and Idaho.

Well, i bought one yesterday,. Absolutely love it so far..

You still have a few more things to buy:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201155012.jpg

J/k. :D

Enjoy your new pocket Mac.

Best,

Kurt

I think you will be very happy with your purchase. I am not easy to please when it comes to electronic devices, but I have been very pleased with the iPhone. Have fun with all the different features.

Yeah, I thought that was a really cool feature too ....until this iPhone guy I know kept on calling me back a while after I had left a message. A few minutes into our conversation he would get a beep, and tell me "oh, I just got a message. .. . oh, it's from you."

So it seems that there is a bandwidth issue. Downloading a message while talking seems to really push-out the "new msg" notification.

Wait, no need to say it ... I'm sure that problem will be fixed with just a simple software update.




...like a MSFT does. :eek: ;)

I don't think the voice messages are actually stored on the iPhone, FWIW. I think they work like any other cell phone and are just pulled from the provider over the network. Visual voicemail just lays them out so you can pick which one to listen to in a non-serial order.

I have also had delays from when I get some calls to when I get the voice mail from that call . . . just like I have had with every cell phone I have ever owned.

My guess is that this is network/provider issue; it happens on my Sprint phone as well, FWIW.

When are you getting your iPhone? :D

Best,

Kurt

And the winner is........

AT&T!

From the WSJ today:

"AT&T posted a 63% rise in net income as it added a record 2.7 million wireless subscribers. Full article coming shortly."

Has there been any announcement (or industry speculation) about a new version with more memory or other features?

Someone has to know the poop on this.

Maybe everyone is just tired of reading this thread (14 pages on the iphone!)

I'm ready to pull the trigger on the iphone but think 8G is limiting. And I'd love to see GPS and better internet connectivity options.

why is 8gig limiting? Do you really need that much music/photos/video? I can't store my whole music or photo library, but an upgrade wouldn't do it either (I'm over 100Gig combined). It just depends on what you really want to use the device for.

The new update has a faux gps...it triangulates cell towers to give you an approximate location. It works fairly well. In the middle of a driving trip traffic necessitated an alternative route. I hit the target button and it redid the directions. And the google maps app has always been cool. It is not *real* GPS though, and EDGE is not 3G. I don't do heavy web browsing on my phone so I really haven't felt hampered by the slower network. I was on 3G with my 8525 and will take the better UI/apps/etc over the network speed any day of the week. ymmv.

No word on when the next iteration will come out. My guess would be at about the 12 month mark so maybe June?

The rumor mill says both issues will be addressed, Chuck. The plans for 3G technology have been announced by AT&T. The FCC needs something like 6 months to approve a new configuration and the application is public, so we'll have lots of warning.

Best option is to get a T-Mobile phone that has "home Wifi" capable that also works on your home wireless router (unlimited calls for $10 + free calls at all Starbuck hotspots). This year they are adding around 10-15 new handsets so you should be able to select one you like.
I use the Curve and love it!!!

Razrs have always been pretty poor phones, except the general public took to it and forced operators to go that direction to be competitive. Not a great phone, and everyone knows it. Pretty thin though....;-)

If you want great coverage, just get a Tmobile @home phone and you will be covered everywhere!! you will be able to get ride of your home line and only increment your bill by 10 bucks.

I am in engineering at TMO, and some of their ideas are ground breaking!!

ONly issue was that the marketing team announced the @home products near the time of the iphone launch, and lets be fair: "no one launches a product better than Apple."

FWIW, web browsing is not that bad on Edge here in San Diego county - YMMV.

I have read that what the iPhone lacks in Edge based network speed it makes up in processing/rendering speed inside the iPhone.

Here is an anecdotal test on iPhone/Edge vs. Nokia/UMTS (UMTS is one 3G technology):

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Wired bit: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/iphone-edge-vs.html

FWIW.

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Kurt

Ok noob question here. Who really cares if 3g is marginally faster ( real world conditions)? The iphone is Wi-Fi which is so much faster than 3g. Just find a hot spot end of debate...

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3036

If a phone has good 3G, wifi isn't needed. Wifi is usually cheaper when you can find it.

EDGE is not that much slower than the 3G networks, in the real world. A lot of the issue is rendering the phone/screen. And Wifi doesn't really help with that.