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WolfeMacleod 07-09-2007 12:45 AM

Honest, Mr EPA, I didn't mean to pass your test...
 
While bumming around "teh intarweb" looking up A/C information, I stumbled across the EPA 609 MVAC certification tets that one must take to become certified in automotive A/C systems.
And then be legal to purchase R-12...

Just think. For a mere $25, I can take the test, be legal to purchase R-12, and then deplete the Ozone with it.

Scary thing? I only missed test exams by one question. With very little study effort, I could pass easily. :eek:

WolfeMacleod 07-09-2007 01:07 AM

Wow. Just for fun, I took it again.
Passed missing only one question. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Joeaksa 07-09-2007 01:42 AM

A lot of us have done it. Its not well known but a lot of people have done this and bought enough R-12 to last for a while and stocked it at home.

turbo6bar 07-09-2007 05:11 AM

Yeah, but by becoming certified, you also are now subject to EPA regulations regarding automotive HVAC (ie. you cannot legally vent any refrigerant to atmosphere). With greater freedom comes greater responsibility and rightly so.

NICKG 07-09-2007 06:52 AM

i have a r12 liscense. in fact, when i was younger i had an r12 powered bb machingun. it used the 1 pound bomb cans for the propellant.
worse, when i used to race my Grand national, i used a NOS sprayer to fog the intercooler with r12(holy crap did that work, like 35hp increase)

the whole r12 thing was a scam, the patent was up, dupont knew that if they did not do something that they would lose this lucrative product..and voila, r134 is made and suddenly r12 is bad. Now they have the patent on r134 so things are status quo. ever wonder why all the r134 cans look the same? they are all Dupont, just labled different.

WolfeMacleod 07-09-2007 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo6bar
Yeah, but by becoming certified, you also are now subject to EPA regulations regarding automotive HVAC (ie. you cannot legally vent any refrigerant to atmosphere). With greater freedom comes greater responsibility and rightly so.
Oh, certainly!


Quote:

Originally posted by NICKG


the whole r12 thing was a scam, the patent was up, dupont knew that if they did not do something that they would lose this lucrative product.

I've seen that happen with several different things. Or, they'll find a new use for it, like some drug, and the patent is effectively renewed.


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