OMFG he's trying to avoid paying a road tax, not asking to be let off the hook for a DUI!

Higgy you need to loosen up a bit and realize that looking for an out on a speeding ticket does NOT warrant the b.s. you are tossing around at this guy.

+1, his last name is Fusco not Lohan...

Don't hold back, Jeff. Tell us what you really think.

Gee Jeff...did someone get put in the doghouse by the wifey this week or something? You sure are giving him some backlash.

I for one know CJ personally, and he is in no way any kind of spoiled brat or taking anything for granted. I hardly ever get to hang out with him because of the fact of hes either working one of his two jobs or working on his thesis for his masters....doesnt sound like a silver spoon kid if you ask me.

And in response about his father, I think thats pretty low of you to accuse someone you don't even know about being the scourge and the scum of the police dept. I guess for one you don't have a lot of friends as cops...I for one do, and as for CJ its in his family. They all look out for each other and one hand washes the other. CJ merely brought the fact up as part of the story...he did NOT say he was going to do it, although it was tempting. But just to prove you wrong, he took the penalties charged with it.

Either way, if you have nothing good to say about it, then don't comment at all. I see people like you all the time on the BMW forums...new 17 yr old kid gets a 335 from mommy and daddy and asks all the n00b questions and everyone flames him because hes a spoiled kid. So what? People like him will be around forever, so you aren't going to change the world...so deal with it.

And in response to his father giving cops a bad name, how about you? You are one of the most uppity 911 drivers I've ever met on here....you know what? I think YOU give us Porsche owners (well ex porsche owner in my case) a bad name...I will leave it at that because I do not wish to sink to the low level of calling other peoples relatives scumbags and such....

Speeding tickets are BS forms of revenue generation. I say beat it by any means available. All is fair in love and war, and this is war.

Note: If it were something serious like a DUI, I'd have a different opinion altogether. Something that directly affects public safety, sure I'd say "pay it". For BS like this, I say it's fine to fight it by any/all means at one's disposal - be just as filthy, dirty, unethical and bogus as they are. Even more so, preferably.

I appreciate those of you coming to my defense, but don't beat up on Jeff. I'm sure he has his reasons for believing what he believes; it's just hard for me to accept him calling my father crooked when, in all honesty, he's probably the most upstanding citizen I know. If I remember, he did "fix" the ticket for me, but I still had to donate to a charity, and didn't get anything on my record... but it was 7 years ago now, and the details aren't exactly fresh in my mind.

By your thinking, though, Jeff, are people who use a radar detector guilty of the same kind of behavior as those who take advantage of having a relative who is/was a cop? They are also utilizing a loophole in the system in order to avoid having to pay a fine...

did you ever live in Higganum?

Me? No. I have lived in Bristol, Farmington, and West Hartford in Connecticut, and 5 blissful years in Boston, MA, about 4 blocks from Fenway Park.

CJ, I appologize. You sound like a straight-up guy. This is, however, a hot-button issue for me (ya think?). I have several cops in my family. I count a few among my closest friends. Not one would ever consider doing what your father did for you when he took car of your ticket. Not one.

No, using a radar detector is not the same. In my state, it's legal. Some states it is not, and I would probably not use one in those states. I would cerainly know what the punishment for such use is, and be willing to buck up to it if caught.

By way of contrast, I cannot think of a single state in which it might be legal for a police officer, active duty or retired, to work a deal to make a ticket go away for a relative or a friend. In that case, you broke the law and got caught. Your father then broke the law to cover that up. He used his position of influence and authority, and undoubtedly some friendship(s) he had made from that position, to break the law to cover up his son breaking the law. He drug those who helped him make your ticket go away into it with him; they broke the law as well. They were undoubtedly others with positions of authority and public trust; a judge, a D.A.; whatever. They knew they were breaking the law with absolute impunity; after all, they are the law, who is going to stop them? That is no more than backwater, third world country bull*****. It has no place here. If that sounds harsh, so be it.

I find it amusing to see some of the most vocal PPOT posters when it come to corruption, or perceived corruption in our government coming to the defense. I guess it's o.k. when it helps some one you know and like, or when it undermines enforcement of laws with which you dissagree. Wow.

Believe me, I share all of your views concerning speed laws and revenue generation. I would, however, never defend a man that is sworn to uphold those laws, whom the public has endowed with a great deal of trust, who wantonly disregards and breaks them to help a family member or friend. And has undoubtedly zealosly enforced them upon others. But hey, if you all are fine with that, more power to you. It was, after all, "just" a speeding ticket. Just a wee little bit of relatively innocuous corruption is o.k., right? I'm sorry, but I for one put that in the same class as a "little bit" pregnant.

Jeff, while the point you make is certainly valid, what grates me reading your posts is that you don't seem to have the decency to simply keep your opinion to yourself when it comes to another person's father. Didn't your parents ever teach you that if you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all? Mine certainly did. They made it very clear to me that you don't go around insulting people, even if what you might want to say is true. No good ever comes out of it. The message you might be trying to deliver gets lost in the venomous insults being tossed his way.

Agreed. And if you can use the Gov'ts own filthy, dirty, corrupt agents to help you do it- then all the better i say.

As far as Jeff- He apologized. And his point, while perhaps poorly expressed- is valid.

Cops are dirty.

It really is just revenue enhancement. When I was a prosecutor (less than a year ago) it was standard practice to amend speeding tickets that were 10 over the speed limit to defective equipment. The fine was higher, but no points off the license and no increase in insurance. There were few repeat offendors due to the cost of the ticket.

You are right. I have no excuse. Now that I've calmed down and gone back and re-read my posts, I feel pretty ashamed of what I wrote. I know better; my folks did raise me better. CJ, I appologize. Appologize to your dad for me too. I was way, way out of line.

I like this place :). We ARE passionate, but for the most part intelligent and "sane"...good move Jeff!

ps: While your "tone" was off-base, your message was spot on...

CJ:

I will not judge you; ain't my style. That being said, one of the problems our society has is folks not taking responsibility of their actions, whether it be speeding or paying a luxury tax.

If you were really going that fast in a zone marked for a much lower limit, 'fess up and face the music. It ain't easy, but it is a real character builder!!

And yes, I almost forgot. Imo CJ, you got caught and you admitted here that you were guilty so the right thing to do is simply suck it up and pay the fine. That's the way it goes sometimes and is the right thing to do.

WTF it's pretty simple you speed , you pay. You don't get caught speeding every day so if you average it out it really does'nt cost you that much unless you never speed.

Todd :D

Unlike more than half of the people I have sold parts to, CJ never haggled me on my asking price, even though he is a student as well. I'm not saying that like negotiation is a bad thing, nor am I calling my parts buyers cheap. However, it does show that CJ isn't merely out for himself. Reading the first post, it's pretty clear that he's asking how bad the fine will be...not "look at me, daddy is erasing my crime!"

You do need to get the Volvo going again...I don't think you'd want to do 70 in a 40 with it. :p