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widebody911 08-01-2007 02:08 PM

Insightful article on pr0n
 
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/trends/n_9437/

the 08-01-2007 02:38 PM

Naomi Wolf talking dirty like that make me so randy, baby!

daepp 08-01-2007 02:50 PM

Very interesting.

scottmandue 08-01-2007 03:52 PM

"For most of human history, erotic images have been reflections of, or celebrations of, or substitutes for, real naked women. For the first time in human history, the images’ power and allure have supplanted that of real naked women."

Like Duh, :p

Porsche-O-Phile 08-01-2007 04:28 PM

Pictures of naked women are practically better than the real thing sometimes - all the enjoyment of looking at 'em and you don't have to put up with their crap.

Jeff Higgins 08-01-2007 05:10 PM

“I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sex has no mystery.”

Poor kid. When I was his age, sex had a lot of mystery. Kids his age think we are "prudes" for wanting to keep that mystery alive. They will never have any idea what they are really missing by not "missing" anything.

Seahawk 08-01-2007 05:18 PM

Very interesting article...we have reached a point where less may indeed be more.

the 08-01-2007 08:07 PM

that is outsourcing and currency devaluation taken to the extreme!

cashflyer 08-02-2007 05:54 AM

Sounds like we're facing a buyers market on poon.

dhoward 08-02-2007 06:33 AM

Try spending hours searching for 'content'.
Boring isn't the word....

legion 08-02-2007 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhoward (Post 3407351)
Try spending hours searching for 'content'.
Boring isn't the word....

Is "chafed" the word?

legion 08-02-2007 06:38 AM

To quote the great Zap Brannigan:

"The spirit is willing, but the flesh is bruised and spongy."

JCF 08-02-2007 10:51 AM

Every generation gets the sex it deserves.

kach22i 08-02-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

The evidence is in: Greater supply of the stimulant equals diminished capacity.
I guess sex is just like food.

Quote:

“Mystery?” He looked at me blankly. And then, without hesitating, he replied: “I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sex has no mystery.”
I dated a girl like that once, the relationship was shortened because of the lack of Mystery, nothing left to experience or conquer or share together. You have to have some kind of challenge to make it interesting.

Good article.

mschuep 08-02-2007 12:37 PM

Interesting...I'm not sure if I agree with it, though I don't completely disagree. Just for the sake of conversation...

There are also a lot of women out there that do 'measure up' to the porn stars, this is an obvious point that Ms. Wolf fails to mention or consider. Additinally, there are women that are completely satisfied and happy with their sex lives, as well as their partners.

Perhaps those women that feel imbarrased or underqualified about their sexuality could learn a little something by watching some porn, or by developing some self-confidence, instead of dismissing it, and outcasting permiscuous hotties as 'sluts' and 'skanky b*tches'...Jealous much?

What is wrong with wanting to bang like a porn star? Who decided they are all bad, Oprah? Why all the negativity man? :D

scottmandue 08-02-2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 3406706)
“I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sex has no mystery.”

Poor kid. When I was his age, sex had a lot of mystery. Kids his age think we are "prudes" for wanting to keep that mystery alive. They will never have any idea what they are really missing by not "missing" anything.

Same here... when I was in high school if a girl let you touch her boobs while kissing good night it was major excitement. I hate to think what a girl has to do to impress a teenage boy today.

Mule 08-02-2007 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the (Post 3406979)
that is outsourcing and currency devaluation taken to the extreme!

Especially when you consider things like this:Rachel is a real girl. The list was taken from her website. Rachel is a typical young American woman. Keep in mind that she expects everything on the list simply because she has vagina.

1. 5'8” and taller
2. Dark brown hair with brown eyes/blue eyes
3. Handsome
4. Muscular
5. Weight depending on height – not skinny, not fat
6. Good sense of humor
7. Dimples
8. Cute laugh
9. Sensitive
10. *Affectionate* in front of friends
11. Gives me lots of attention
12. Outgoing
13. Popular but doesn't know the whole state
14. Friends with my friends
15. Nice smile
16. Straight teeth
17. No facial or body hair (except legs n under arms)
18. Pierced ear(s) if any
19. Not too many tattoos if any
20. Likes to cuddle
21. Likes to party
22. Takes me out
23. Grabs my hand to hold
24. Kisses me unexpectedly
25. Dresses nice (*ABERCROMBIE*) hehe
26. Has a good job
27. Tells me he misses me when we're not together
28. Makes me laugh
29. Open minded
30. Polite
31. Holds doors for me
32. Opens car doors
33. *Romantic*
34. Likes all type of music
35. Likes going to the movies
36. Talks to his friends about me
37. Looks into my eyes when just laying there on the bed
38. Gives massages without me having to ask
39. Plays with my hair
40. Calls me to just say hi
41. Tries not to argue
42. Apologizes for when he does wrong
43. Says what he's feeling
44. Has a car
45. Has a dog
46. Has a family that likes me
47. Compliments me
48. Is tan
49. Doesn't curse all the time
50. Wants to be with me as much as possible
51. Comes over unexpectedly
52. Wakes me up with a kiss
53. Same age or 3 years at the most older than me
54. *Trustworthy*
55. Patient
56. Likes to shop
57. Has good manners
58. Doesn't smoke
59. Occasionally drinks
60. Athletic
61. Is on time for dates
62. Calls back later when he says he will
63. Lives close to me
64. Wants to meet my family
65. Treats me like a princess
66. Has a cute butt
67. Good kissable lips
68. Good kisser
69. Good memory
70. Does special things for holidays/birthdays/anniversary/etc
71. Intelligent
72. Has direction
73. Creative
74. Likes everything about me
75. Committed
76. *My best friend*
77. Respectful
78. Mature
79. Persistent – Hard working
80. Likes walks on the beach
81. Likes just staying home sometimes
82. Writes me songs/poems
83. Likes to dance
84. Has a sexy voice
85. Cooks for me
86. Likes to show me off
87. Calls me or introduces me as his "girlfriend" not "Rachel"
88. Likes to take pictures
89. Flirts with me in public and in private
90. Puts up with my mood swings
91. Comforts me when I'm sad
92. Doesn't say “sorry” all the time when it's not needed
93. Sticks up for me
94. Likes animals
95. Sends me flowers for no reason
96. Ignores my imperfections
97. Surprises me (good surprises)
98. Doesn't ever yell at me
99. Likes picnics
100. Likes to clean
101. First to say I Love You
102. Listens to me
103. Smells good
104. *Doesn't lie*
105. Likes kids
106. Makes me the center of his world
107. Not in trouble with the law
108. Isn't a goody-goody
109. Doesn't stare at other girls
110. Doesn't talk to other girls more than me
111. Doodles our names on paper
112. Likes to draw
113. Leaves notes on my car
114. Let's me go out with him and his friends
115. Will hang out with me and my friends
116. Puts pictures of me in his car and wallet
117. Gets jealous but not too jealous
118. Dependable
119. Doesn't hang up on me
120. Calls me babe, sweetie, etc
121. Calls me cute pet names
122. Isn't conceited
123. Isn't a penny-pincher
124. Likes sports and going to sports events
125. Likes to play board games/video games and lets me win
126. Doesn't play mind games
127. Doesn't just think about sex
128. Cares about world issues
129. Doesn't make me cry
130. Leaves sweet voicemails/text messages on my phone
131. Isn't shy
132. Has hopes, dreams, and wishes
133. Not opinionated
134. Will watch chick flicks even if he doesn't like them
135. Can spell

Here is a typical 28yo American woman's personals ad. Interestingly, the only things she says about herself is that she is lazy, *****y, ugly, and does not like giving blowjobs.

This is my ideal guy:

1. He has talent I can respect. Either he is a great artist or a musician with his own style or otherwise great at some craft. His talent doesn't follow the herd.
2. If he is not artistic than at least he enjoys the arts, music and books. If he has an interest in anything beyond mindless pop culture, video games and TV, that would be ideal. Not that any of that is too bad, but there is just so much more to life.
3. He has goals, not dreams. He strategizes on how he can realize his goals in light of whatever life has handed him as his fate.
4. He is an animal lover and has compassion for people.
5. He is financially solvent. He doesn't spend money he doesn't have and doesn't try to buy a woman's affection. He plans his livestyle to be uncomplicated and has common sense in regards to what is a wise investment or not.
6. He is not selfish and self-centered.
7. He likes his mom and female siblings and is nice to them.
8. He takes care of his emotional health as well as being conscious of his physical health.
9. He lives to travel and be spontaneous.
10. He is a one woman guy. He is not constantly searching for new ass. He's not an oral freak and wants to be with a girl who isn't into it either. He likes touching, kissing, giving and receiving massages. He knows where tha g-spot is.
11. He likes an independent lady who has her own interests, goals, and ideas and is supportive of her reaching them, as opposed to competing with her or taking no interest.
12. He wants to have a child. Not immediately, but he does see that in his future. He doesn't currently have any.
13. He's never been told by a girlfriend that he needs professional psychological help. If he has, he has gotten it and its been at least 5 years since he's gotten better.
14. He would rather do the right thing than try to get away with something.
15. He was not raised catholic.
16. He can cook and do his own laundry and doesn't expect his girlfriend to do it.
17. He believes in karma.
18. He listens to his inner voice and doesn't deny his real feelings. He can discuss issues and conflicts civily, even though a complete resolution may not come about.
19. He is not looking for a super model, but a real, normal person.

Mule 08-02-2007 02:42 PM

Take it one step beyond that.
http://nomarriage.com/whores.html

then this"

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200301/flanaganl

When you consider information like this, it looks more & more like the pendulum has begun to swing back the other way.

MysticLlama 08-02-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3408177)
17. He believes in karma.

Sounds picky, but at least I agree on that one point.

I believe in karma, I figure if someone doesn't give this girl the time of day, she probably deserves it.

(it's also how I justify being mean to people, they must deserve it too)

:D


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