Teens today, fearless... or brainless??
 

Last night I was at the firehouse for our meeting. Later on one of the younger comes comes in and says to me and a few others. "I think you better come outside". I go near the door and hear some commotion. Walk outside and there is a bunch of kids that pulled up and apperently had a problem with one of our guys. There was three cars of teens, about 11 of them. They were
going back and forth with a few of our guys, and it was getting ugly. Two had bats on them and where making threats. Needless to say the firehouse cleared out and there was about 25 of us out there.
Me and a bunch of the older guys stepped in to diffuse things. As soon as we walked out they immediately backed off and went back to their cars. All of them except two. They continued to shoot their mouths off and threaten us.
Now these two were the ones to be scared of. The big guy was about 5'6 and built like Paris Hilton. The real aggresive one was an oriental kid about 5'3 and looked like Paris's skeleton. Both of them started coming towards us and the little guy got in the face of my buddy Chip. Who is built like a linebacker. he went to take a swing and Chip made a move to go after him and we grabbed him before he could. So One of our other guys steps in, my buddy Rob who we call Mongo for good reason (hes 6'4 280.) The little nutjob starts threatening him. The other guys screaming that hes gonna bash everyones head in. Needless to say, they would have gotten stomped. But we showed restraint because they were young. (we later found out they were 18 and 19).
We called the police immediately but they all eventually left while threatening to come back and get us.
Now is it me or are kids today that fuchin stupid??:confused:

Same as always--a little of both brainlessness and fearlessness.

I could see myself doing something like this when I was younger. I know better now.

They are that stupid, Vinny.

methamphetamines...

They grow them stupid these days.

eh? come again?

True same here, but even I knew when to back off and not get an as$ kicking.
I see stuff like this all the time. I amazes me. They all think what a bunch of bad as$es they are. Not to mention the lack of respect for adults and authority in general. We all laughed about it afterwards, but it could have gotten out of hand real fast.

I was once young and stupid. I could see letting my arrogance get me in too deep.

Ya but you must have been you, stupid and tough.

LOL, even at my most arrogant and fearless stage, I guess I was too much of a weakling to even contemplate picking fights at the firestation.

A couple of my friends are firefighters, and I've met their crews at parties etc. Great guys, but not the kind of fellahs I'd want to have a "dust up" with.

ding ding

BTW, what pissed these kids off anyway?

Mebbe they were being "smart" and looking for a lawsuit...

Other than that, I vote for "dumb teens doign the things dumb teens do"

What should they be scared of? It's not like they're ever gonna get the beatings they so sorely need. They'll never be handled properly by the cops, wouldn't ever serve any real time for hurting someone, wouldn't be able to pay if they lost a personal injury suit. What do they have to lose unless, by some tiny chance, they come across some tougher crowd who take no sympathy on them and couldn't care less about the consequences for giving them a thumpin'? There is no justice anymore and the more kids like this realize it, the worse they'll behave.

Lost Experiment
 

You guys are all wrong,

Didnt you hear about the New Jersey State Science department loosing those 2 clones recently? The two escapees are young males humans mixed with a very large percentage of Chihuahua genes. Are known to be way overly aggressive for there size and weight. They just need a good kick!

Bob

Apparently one of them had an personal issue with one of our younger firefighters, ( it wasnt even one of the two "tough guys"), and they had been talking on the phone right before the incident. So he decided to come to the firehouse to take care of it. Guess he decided to bring some backup.

It was pretty comical. Seeing this little guy being badass with a guy that had close to a foot and 200lbs on him. Robs hand is about the size of this guys head.

reminds me of this.:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1186082439.jpg

No, I can't say I was tough at that age. Something of a wimp and pretty violence-adverse, actually. I now have 50 pounds on my 19-year-old self...and I bench press 175 lbs. more than I did then...

Things were different back then. If your mouth got you in trouble you got the asswhipping you had coming. your parents would say "well you asked for it, you got it. next time keep your mouth shut" or something like that.

Nowadays, the parents would realize their little mouthy punk POS was in the wrong but they would pretend he wasn't and defend him and and sue everyone within 100 miles.
The punks realize they won't get the asswhipping they are asking for and they know they can get away with it.

I am one of the dinosaurs. I will still asswhip a mouthy punk if he deserves it, damn the consequences. I figure I'm doing him a favor by knocking him senseless. He needs to learn life's lessons and if his parents won't teach him I will.
If you have mouthy, arrogant punk kids and you won't step up to the plate and be parents, keep your kids away from me ;)

I think the 2 that kept coming at you guys felt there was safety in numbers, guarantee if you saw them alone they would have a different attitude.
It's good to see that you guys kept your cool, kind of tough to do and it shows the younger guys how to act.

Love that pic of the dogs, I have that picture hanging in my office.

SammyG2

Hey Phuque you! I could kick your ass anyday..!

Love
Tabs

What safety in numbers?? The rest of them bailed and ran back to their cars when we came out of the firehouse. LOL

Sammy you are right about the parents backing their kids. My stepsons a total wiseas$, (not in a nasty, but an annoying way.) A very good kid, but a wisea$$. My wife thinks its cute and funny. I keep warning her that one day hes gonna say something to the wrong person and hes gonna get his jaw broken and she wont think thats so funny anymore.

Lol

Reminds me of the "NO FEAR" stickers you see... I always think, hmmmmm fear is natures way of keeping you alive... wouldn't "NO BRAINS" be more accurate? :D

Exactly. What VINMAN describes was duplicated almost exactly with myself and some friends about five years ago. There had to be 40 of us or more, at a bike club meeting, when about half a dozen punk tweakers came up and started mouthing off. I think the biggest one went 150 pounds soaking wet; our biggest guy easily doubled that. I'm still not sure what these kids were after, or what we had done to piss them off.

Where our situation differed was that it did actually come to blows. Two of them, to be exact. Their chief spokesman took a cheap shot and connected to the nose of one of our unsuspecting members, bloodying it. So I stepped up from his blind side and returned the favor, landing a very clean, unfettered left hook right on the button. He collapsed like a rag doll and his buddies ran like only skinny little tweakers can. They just left him lying there in the parking lot; no honor amongst tweakers, I guess. He was still laying there when we fired up the bikes and left. We still meet in the same location on the same day every month and have never seen any of them since. Damn meth heads...

Chihuahuas are worthless dogs. A lot of bark, but when the bigger dog is off the leash, they are running away with their tail between their legs.

As far as the teens go, thats the product of the way kids are raised in this country. They have control over their parents because CPS is just a phone call away.

They aren't fearless - they just know nothing is going to happen to them. And if it does, they will get compensated for it.

Then again, you can't sue when you're dead.

Be very cautious about the assumed relationship of physical size = domination.

We were at an outdoor concert some years back. Three, (obviously drunken)
twenty somethings, all BIG (IE football player types) were sitting ahead of us and just behind two guys and their dates. The two guys were what I would describe as thin/lean ... but had that country, working boys (tanned/fit ) look.

Not close enough to hear the words exchanged, but something was said and both of the thin guys stood up, turned, looked at the three bruisers slouched in their chairs, glanced at each other as if in agreement and ATTACKED!

None of the three big men moved fast enough to get completely up out of their seats and to their feet. Rapid, fists of fury from the thin men! Crowd falling back, security on them almost immediately...but in that time frame (not more than perhaps 60-90 seconds) they pummeled those three big boys into the ground! I do not think I saw one direct swing land from the big boys, who were either on their backs or knees after it started but those two (who never left their feet) pounded the crap out of them.

Security, after chatting with bystanders, shows the three battered boys the exit. The two boys, re-join their dates.

I loved it!

^^
Agreed, I've seen plenty of "large" guys get their asses handed to them by someone 1/2 their size.

I was never that stupid, and I was pretty stupid

My brother in law is like that, 5'7", 150-160 lbs. He never lost boxing, golden gloves, think he won Texas Toughman one year. He always tried to get out of fighting. "Dude, please don't make me embarass you in front of your friends" Saw him beat down three guys at the same time. Two jumped him after he knocked their friend down. Crazy to watch someone fight who is really good at it against a couple that are not. Over before I could even step in, really.

Absolutely. It's never the size of the dog in the fight; it's the size of the fight in the dog.

That said, it's pretty easy to discern the difference between a wiry young farm kid and a city boy tweaker, both physically and socially. One is likely to give a guy ***** and deserve a good thumping; the other is likely to keep his place until some one needs a good thumping.

Very true. I know alot of little guys that are tough ba$tards. But these two kids were not, you can tell. They were punks. If they were that tough their buddies wouldnt have ran and left them, or been trying to drag them away like they where. They would have stood back and watched them get the better of the big guys.
Rob is a tough mother. Hes does rodeo, calf roping, stuff like that. He would have put that bat up the kids a$$.

Like Todd said, passivity rules the roost.

Everyone wants to be smart and right on the line -

I recently went to a concert, where this tie dyed guy and girl refused to sit down the entire show- right in front of me and the GF.

Now, I was ready to leave after patiently watching his backside for an hour or so, I even politely asked him to "sit down so my GF can see" his response was

"well you guys can stand up then"

He was a twentysomething liberal with a beard, sense of superiority, even after I politely asked him to sit - he was the only one in the section.

I lost it when the GF (we decided to leave early) told him about his obnoxious BO and it flippantly turned to his GF and referred to us as " a couple of idiots"

I gave that kid a Left hook to the back of his rib cage he'll never, ever forget - I'm over 230 LBS and it was a clean connection. Last I remember his GF was screaming and pointing at me.

I figured I did the kid a favor, one of these days he'll try that routine on someone and they'll bring a garbage can down on his head. No regrets.

rjp

My grandfather (if he would'nt have died fighting on the eastern front in '45) would have said:

"They need another war".

That would soon give them an avenue to have the childish instinct to puppy fight knocked out of them.

Teens today are idiots. Just go to youtube and watch the videos or go to any tv station that caters to teens and watch some tv. idiots. I'm only 36 and don't feel my age. There's a difference between a little crazy/reckless and stupid.

I wonder how much of this is legitimately attributable to today's kids being idiots and how much of it is the same thing EVERY generation says about its kids (namely that they're idiots). I'm sure our parents said the same thing about us. Their parents said the same thing about them, etc., etc., etc. . .

I do get really irritated at the behavior of the idiot "wanna-be-tough-guy", sideways-hat, baggy-pants retards that are today's youth - but I don't delude myself that our parents may well have thought the same of my generation and our propensity to "test the boundaries" by defying the social conventions that they identified with.

That said, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I think some of it is what every generation gets and some of it really IS today's kids being the worst ever. It literally scares me to think that when I'm old and feeble, this generation coming up will be the one to run the show. That's a scary, scary thought. They're woefully incompetent, misdirected, disrespectful, inarticulate and have precious little ability to critically think. Scary times ahead.

Amen brother!!:eek:

QUOTE: "It literally scares me to think that when I'm old and feeble, this generation coming up will be the one to run the show."

I think EVERY generation has had this thought and still the world moves forward and progresses. I think EVERY generation to some extent fears their own demise (aging does bring ones own mortality into focus) and cannot imagine the world going on without THEM! GASP...How could it?
How? Because the graveyards are full of indispensable men.

The slackers, losers, thieves, idiots, etc., make the news headlines, but behind the scenes they are outnumbered by good, solid citizens quietly; getting an education, going to jobs every day, raising their families, volunteering for the armed forces, contributing to charities, etc. ...and that does not make good fodder for the media.