Emergency In Indy-- Terror Alert- WTF
 

I would not believe it until I saw the news. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is now conducting spot checks for terror activities and contraband on, guess what, THE F--ING INDY BUSES. Thats right, if you board a bus in our city, your backpack and packages can get checked for who knows what. I dont recall any terror attacks on any of our buses, but we now have TSA employees manning spots around Indy to keep an EYE on people who ride the buses. Word has it that they found 2 knives, whooooooopeeeeee, thats a first, a knife on a bus. This program is called VIPER, of course funded by our own US Govt. Look for it in your city soon. We are loosing more and more freedoms every day and I'm sick and tired of it. :eek::mad:

Just remember, God is on our side..

They are not doing it for fun, there must have been a threat.

We landed at a private airport outside of NYC recently. They checked the entire airplane for a threat other than I have ever seen before. What the threat was am not going to mention but they were not doing it for fun, someone heard or found something to clue them into a possible threat.

to be fair, I believe they are trying to not wait until AFTER an attack on a bus. waiting until after the attack to start checking for things isn't as productive.

like joe suggests, there must be more behind the story, it seems unlikely they are doing it just for fun.

What "freedom" have you lost due to the extra safety measures? You are "free" to not ride the bus right?

A cousin who is on the inside loop in state government knows of a few very serious threats that have never made the news.

We have busses in orange County, but only illegal immigrants ride them ;)

Sure, if you can afford a car. But the poor that can't afford a car, they don't deserve rights, do they?

now you're learning. just like lawyers, the poor can't afford them so they get less favorable results from the "justice" system.

The "freedoms" I talk about are the ones that are in our constitution. Unreasonable search and seisure. There have been NO problems in Indy as far as buses are concerned. The women who had her bag searched said,"whats next, are they going to come to my house and search that". She was about 70 years old and did nothing but try to get on a bus. Whats next, searching my car before I view the Grand Canyon, or Key West. Big Brother is everywhere and closing all to close.

that's what they are experts at: taking away rights and taking your money.

they suck at everything else, like securing the border, keeping the bridges safe, and everything else that matters to us citizens. God Bless America
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cases of government abusing power are rare and all have turned out to be hoaxes set up by lefties. I wouldn't worry. In fact, you should just go shopping and have a mocha latte to settle your nerves. mmmmmm mocha.

Right, not a single example comes to mind at the moment...
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Some talking heads of policy agree that totally preventing another attack is impossible. This group also agrees that the best they can do is head off a catastrophe. Taking down 3-5k people is a lot different than an rpg attack.

not saying this applies here.

Government is elected by the people for the people. Clearly government only has the public's best interest in mind when making decisions. Want proof? We elect people with whom we can have a beer. Guys like that you can always trust, because you can have a beer with them.

how about a good movie!









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and if they don't check and something happens what will we say then?

I've travelled to most countries out there and let me tell you, the checkups in the USA (still today) are nothing compared to what I've been through.

I'll say a small incovenience is worth a life...

[sarcasm=on]"If you've got nothing to hide, what's the problem?"

So please drop your drawers, this cavity search will only take a second. After all, we want everyone to be safe, right? Think of the children! [sarcasm=off]

Sounds to me like a bunch of law-enforcement types are simply doing their damnedest to keep themselves relevant.

i heard that too...like the "no new taxes " threat of a decade or so ago...well that didn't pan out did it?

out of curiosity, are CCW "permits" issued in the state? Be interesting to get a bunch of folks with them to try and get on a bus... :)

They can listen to my phone calls, spy on me in the shower, cavity search what ever. As long as they do everybody I don't have anything to hide from them. I want them to check everything going on that bus before I get on. Kaboom is too late. We take our freedoms for granted. What WE don't know HAS saved lives. I've got to much life to take care of and they have the job of making sure I and you are safe. To the best of their abilities. Nothing to see here move along!

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You'd have been a perfect propagandist for Hitler's Nazi Party. Lenni Riefenstahl would be so proud. Too bad you're 60 years too late, eh?

Keep at it. I'm sure there will be a job here for you soon enough.

Please don't be so casual with my freedom. You may think government is pure as the driven snow and would never abuse power given willingly or taken slyly, but there are those of us that believe in Live Free or Die.

brave men and women have died for our freedom, please don't treat it like a special at Wal*Mart.

VIPR http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/vipr_blockisland.shtm

Allegedly, you waive your fourth amendment right when you opt to ride public transportation. The argument is that if you want to protect your right, then walk - mass transit is not a constitutional right.

Not that I agree with the process, but how is this searching any different than when you try to board an airplane?

I have nothing to hide from you are anyone. My freedoms too! Walk next time. I pay to drive a car, if I paid to ride a public bus then I would be subject to the securities that exist to protect the public. Hitler propagandist, lol


Shaun, I don't take YOUR freedoms casual, Do you want to get on a unsecure bus if there has been threat! So, you think they should post it on the news or interweb that there is some sort of threat to your area or mine. What is wrong with people thinking this is not a WAR. There's no special at wally world on anything I said, What do you have to hide?



Que the flying monkeys, never mind the people behind the curtain.

Dude, getting a CCW in Indiana is about as hard as buying a pack of smokes.:D

Good, thats the way it is here in Fl... only way better would be to not need permission to defend yourself....

How could you POSSIBLY know that? Wake up...it's a new world. You can't have it both ways as long as there are animals out there who want to kill us. Or haven't you seen the news in the last 7 years?

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So please drop your drawers, this cavity search will only take a second.
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Which Bus did you say this was happening on?

More Government means less Freedoms...after all they have to justify thier existence somehow and meddling in your life keeps em busy.

I'm curious what people think the right response would be.

Say intelligence and investigation reveals a credible threat that a group is planning to blow up a city bus with a backpack bomb, like is done in other countries all the time. The threat centers around a specific city.

What do you think the right response would be?

1) Do nothing? Or do nothing until *after* a bomb actually explodes? That what some seem to suggest ("There hasn't been any problems on the buses so far, so why do anything?")

2) Shut down all the buses?

3) Put out a public warning? "Hey, we our investigation suggests a credible threat of a backpack bomb on one of our buses. But we don't want to violate any rights, so we won't be checking any backpacks. Carry on, and have a nice day."

What?

That's the problem right there. These 'credible threats' have so far been nothing more than ruses to distract from whatever *****hole the administration has gotten itself into on a given day.

How do you know that? There's never been *any* credible threat in the US since 9/11? Every single one has been a ruse?

But anyways, I'm still interested in hearing what people think we should do if there is information of a credible threat, as in my example. Just assume it's credible.