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Hendog 09-27-2007 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 3500842)
I'm not sure what I'm seeing there. Anyone care to explain?


" we did this where people can see the technology; the safety switch system" TADAAAA!!:confused::rolleyes:

charlesbahn 09-27-2007 08:11 AM

I'm sure glad he took the crankshaft and the injectors out of that (electric) motor!

svandamme 09-27-2007 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by charlesbahn (Post 3501250)
I'm sure glad he took the crankshaft and the injectors out of that (electric) motor!


they were obviously oversized and robbing the gererator of power
maybe with correctly sized ones, he could get another 50 amps more out of that sucker

notfarnow 09-27-2007 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Cesiro (Post 3501227)
Why is there an enclosed car car trailer in the background in the parking lot?

Hmmmm......

It's got another 25 of those batteries.


He swaps them out every time he crosses the parking lot

Aerkuld 09-27-2007 08:49 AM

Anyone care to point us to the ogiginal gererator thread? I've searched but can't find it...

What the heck is that guy talking about? I have no idea how his 'invention' is supposed to work, especially without a crankshaft and fuel injectors.
Please help me - I think I'm becoming dumber by the second...

charlesbahn 09-27-2007 08:53 AM

An all time, unforgettable classic:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/264860-does-anyone-want-free-gererator.html?highlight=gererator

john70t 09-27-2007 09:01 AM

Using a flywheel mass to store energy has been around for decades-nothing new.
It might be a practical application for delivery trucks which operate only in dense urban traffic, but there are probably better methods of inertial storage.

Too bad Bush has personally visited the companies holding patents on real, viable, battery technology such as NiMH and LiONphosphate etc.... Low and behold, they aren't selling products to the general public, and their corporate marketing is limited at best.
No conspiricy here, nope, keep moving along, that's it.

svandamme 09-27-2007 09:03 AM

has anyone PM'ed Reino 757 yet , we could use his expert insight and teachings in this thread as well, i just can't explain it like he does... i'm am but a maggot compared to him ,the Gererator Guru

lendaddy 09-27-2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 3501355)
Using a flywheel mass to store energy has been around for decades-nothing new.
It might be a practical application for delivery trucks which operate only in dense urban traffic, but there are probably better methods of inertial storage.

Too bad Bush has personally visited the companies holding patents on real, viable, battery technology such as NiMH and LiONphosphate etc.... Low and behold, they aren't selling products to the general public, and their corporate marketing is limited at best.
No conspiricy here, nope, keep moving along, that's it.

lol

sammyg2 09-27-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by
Too bad Bush has personally visited the companies holding patents on [i
real[/i], viable, battery technology such as NiMH and LiONphosphate etc.... Low and behold, they aren't selling products to the general public, and their corporate marketing is limited at best.
No conspiricy here, nope, keep moving along, that's it.

That was a joke, right?

john70t 09-27-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3501404)
That was a joke, right?

Nope.

NiMH: http://www.ovonic.com/eb_so_bush_visits_united_solar_ovonic_photos.cfm
GM sold it's majority stake to Texaco and the board is stocked with oil exec's. Intersting, that the Wikipedia page has been edited to include no mention of Ovonics or Stanly Ovshinsky. Here's a good read http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070322130912AAAxw5k

LiON Phosphate: http://www.a123systems.com/newsite/index.php#/news/news070226/
They also get a personal visit from the oil-president.

Bush has taken great interest in the new batteries, but for what reason?

It seem like there is a public demand for PHEV, as well as EV's.
"Interest in plug-in hybrids increased in 2006 to such a level that the architecture was included as an area of research in President George W. Bush's advanced energy initiative and mentioned in his 2007 State of the Union Address. After hearing an explanation of PHEVs, 49% of consumers surveyed in 2006 said they would consider purchasing one. That is about the same level of interest as standard hybrid technology."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_hybrid

The proof is in the product puddin':(.

cstreit 09-27-2007 09:54 AM

I love these guys... They always talk about X volts in, but look(!) we're getting 150, 5000, whatever volts coming out, we must be creating energy!

BS. I can turn a 9 volt battery into 50,000 volts, just low amps...

equality72521 09-27-2007 09:57 AM

OK, so there must be a Youtube video? I'm at work and they block Youtube so that's why i don't see anything. Am I correct?

sammyg2 09-27-2007 10:13 AM

Oh, I thought it was a joke.
I just could not imagine any sane person saying something like that and being serious about it.
If you would care to elaborate on your accusation that Bush is personally responsible for keeping revolutionary battery technology from the general public, I'd promise to keep an open mind .........

john70t 09-27-2007 10:27 AM

Sammy: I'm sure as a prudent, balanced, open-mined personality you obviously wanted to lean more about the EV situation, and why there are no production EV's being produced by any automaker today.

Mabye if you had difficulty reading the entire link(it was rather long), here's a highlight recap:

"After the electric car program in California was killed, and the EV1s were crushed, GM sold the NIMH patents to Chevron/Texaco, who formed the company "Cobasys". Cobasys sued Panasonic and Toyota (the only other carmaker using NIMHs in an electric car, the RAV 4 EV), and stopped the manufacture of EV sized NIMH batteries."

kstar 09-27-2007 10:41 AM

Battery tech continues to dramatically improve and EV cars are coming back. These early "modern" EV cars you mention were simply ahead of their time, IMO.

It's hard for me to see a conspiracy here having only modest knowledge of battery technology and the coming EV wave.

Many other "green" techs are also growing, spreading and being practically applied around the world. I guess "big oil" has dropped the ball in a very big way?

It would be shrewd for oil related businesses to become involved with these new energy technologies, yes? Wasn't that guy in the video with his gererator from oil country anyways? :D

FWIW.

Best,

Kurt

P.S.: Most, if not all, big oil companies are held by millions upon millions of public shareholders and have very little concentration of ownership at management levels. Old ladies, folks with 401ks and people like you and me are "big oil".

cmccuist 09-27-2007 10:49 AM

GM claimed they were losing too much money on the EV1. The cars were leased so they took the cars back and crushed them or disposed of them some way. There' s a documentary out there "Who killed the electric car". I think it's narrated by one of the Sheens. I'm still wondering what happened to the 200 mpg carberator and the adiabatic engine.

Regardless, the electric car isn't dead.

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4024615

rcecale 09-27-2007 11:06 AM

So this is what Dennis Weaver has been up to since they cancelled McCloud! I used to love that show as a kid! :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190919905.jpg

http://cayman.globat.com/~trademarks...ke/McGuide.jpg

Randy

sammyg2 09-27-2007 11:25 AM

GM as well as the other car manufacturers came out with the EV's for one reason and one reason only, they were forced to do so by lawmakers.
They made just enough to be in compliance, and leased them at a loss. They were very concerned with reliability and liability, and they were still a little ticked off at being forced to do something that to them, did not make sense. As soon as the leases were up they disposed of the cars to eliminate their responsibility and liability.
that was not because of government's intervention, it was in spite of it.

I read your links and saw that Bush visited two alternative energy facilities. That's it. He visited them and discussed their technology. This was at a time when he was preseting his energy package. If a president was presenting an energy package and did not investgate alternative technologies, I'd be worried. I see nothing to indicate a problem there at all, not even a hint of anything improper.

Cobasys is a joint venture between Chevron (NYSE: CVX) and Energy Conversion Devices (ECD Ovonics) (NASDAQ: ENER).
I see absolutely nothing that suggests they are keeping this type of product off the market. In fact just the opposite appears to be the case. They have recently built a very large manufacturing facility and are in the process of gearing up to be the main supplier of this technology. Sounds like a good money maker to me, until a better technology emerges.

There was that post on a blog from who knows who, but that carries no weight with me, No credibility, no proof, just an unsubstantialted roundabout suggestion. Tin foil hat type.

So, what else you got? I'm paying attention.
Please provide something that shows that Bush is holding down this technology. Anything (except for some anonymous and ambiguous post on a blog).
Please provide something that shows that Cobasys is trying to keep the technology covered up.
Please provide something to contradict what it looks like to me, that Cobasys is trying to get their product out there and make money off of it.
Thanks.

charlesbahn 09-27-2007 11:27 AM

I think he (Dennis Weaver) stood to close to the wrong side of the gererator and it had the reverse effect that we saw on LAMBO


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