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kang 10-17-2007 12:16 PM

Hamilton will be champion if:
 
Depending on the results, the title could even be decided on who has the most fifth places. It is that close.


Hamilton will be champion if:

He wins or finishes second

He finishes ahead of both his rivals

He finishes no lower than second if Alonso wins

He finishes no lower than fifth if Alonso is second

He finishes no lower than fifth if Raikkonen wins

He finishes no lower than seventh if Alonso is third and/or Raikkonen is second

He finishes no lower than eighth if Alonso is fourth
If Alonso if fifth or lower and Raikkonen finishes third or lower.

For Alonso to win, the Spaniard must:

Win with Hamilton third or lower

Finish second with Hamilton sixth or lower

Finish third with Hamilton eighth or lower, and Raikkonen failing to win

Finish fourth with Hamilton lower than eighth, and Raikkonen lower than second

For Raikkonen to be champion, the Finn must:

Win with Hamilton sixth or lower and Alonso lower than second

Finish second with Hamilton below seventh and Alonso lower than third.

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So far this year:

Hamilton has four wins, five second places, three thirds, a fourth and a fifth.

Alonso has four wins, four second places, three thirds, a fourth, a fifth and two sevenths.

And Raikkonen has five wins, two second places, four thirds, a fourth, a fifth and an eighth

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7045144.stm

cairns 10-17-2007 01:56 PM

Thanks- that spells it out pretty well.

Porsche-O-Phile 10-17-2007 02:29 PM

Good summary.

I wanna' see Hamilton win just to see the schit-fit Alonzo will throw. Good times.

Jims5543 10-17-2007 02:38 PM

Alonso takes out Hamilton in the 1st turn.

Kimi wins the race and the WC.

Its a Tifosi's wet dream.

Zeke 10-17-2007 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cesiro (Post 3537234)
Alonso takes out Hamilton in the 1st turn.

Kimi wins the race and the WC.

Its a Tifosi's wet dream.

It could happen.

motion 10-17-2007 02:57 PM

I hope it does. I bleed Rossa.

Porsche-O-Phile 10-17-2007 03:06 PM

So does McLaren, apparently.

kang 10-17-2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cesiro (Post 3537234)
Alonso takes out Hamilton in the 1st turn.

Kimi wins the race and the WC.

Its a Tifosi's wet dream.

If FA deliberately takes out LH, he is eliminating his own chance to win the championship. On the other hand, if LH takes out FA…

With both LH and FA out, KR needs to be second or better to take the championship. This is not at all unreasonable. With both FA and LH out, the only other contender would be FM, and we know what would happen there…

So that makes me think neither Malaren driver would deliberately take out the other. They would be sealing their own fate…

motion 10-17-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kang (Post 3537337)
If FA deliberately takes out LH, he is eliminating his own chance to win the championship. On the other hand, if LH takes out FA…

With both LH and FA out, KR needs to be second or better to take the championship. This is not at all unreasonable. With both FA and LH out, the only other contender would be FM, and we know what would happen there…

So that makes me think neither Malaren driver would deliberately take out the other. They would be sealing their own fate…

Huh???? :confused:

kang 10-17-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 3537343)
Huh???? :confused:

I guess I didn’t make it clear that I kind of think that if one driver takes out another, he is essentially taking them both out. It would be very difficult to arrange a crash in such a way as to take out the other driver and not yourself.

You could force a pass, like when Alonso forced his way past Hamilton, but that only gained one spot and didn’t take out the other driver.

With the thought that taking the other guy out also means taking yourself out, does it make more sense?

Jims5543 10-17-2007 03:54 PM

Keep in mind, Alonso does not seem stable (or is he a genius playing mental games with hammy) and there is a good chance that he could take them both out, by accident, trying to make a point with Hammy.

Massa may very well be the faster guy out there but he is well aware that Kimi coming in 1st is in the best interest of the team. He will yield to Kimi if Kimi can gain something from #1 in the race. If FA or LH are in the top 5 after the 1st pitstops Massa will probably go for the win himself. Its his home GP he deserves to take the win if Kimi cannot gain anything.

stealthn 10-17-2007 05:16 PM

What really happens is; Hamilton wins, Alonso's car retires, he crys to the appointed stewart that the wrenches did something to his car. The stewart agrees, takes away the win from Hamilton and Kimi wins on points.


It's going to be a ring-a-ding-dandy

Dottore 10-17-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kang (Post 3537357)
With the thought that taking the other guy out also means taking yourself out, does it make more sense?

It might.

Suppose Kimi goes out - for any reason. Then, if LH takes FA out (and himself) the championship would be his.

Could be fun.

legion 10-17-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 3537551)
What really happens is; Hamilton wins, Alonso's car retires, he crys to the appointed stewart that the wrenches did something to his car. The stewart agrees, takes away the win from Hamilton and Kimi wins on points.


It's going to be a ring-a-ding-dandy

Most likely scenario, IMO.

BRPORSCHE 10-17-2007 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 3537272)
I hope it does. I bleed Rossa.

La Ferrari ringrazia Schumacher, un uomo straordinario.

Anyone know Eyetalian?

motion 10-17-2007 06:54 PM

Yes, he was extraordinary, truly.

Wickd89 10-17-2007 07:01 PM

Should be a great race. I am getting together with around 5 friends to watch. Should be awesome.

Who knows what will happen.

Personally, I hope Hamilton or Kimi win. I would really hate Alonso to win. I have grown to dislike him a little and hope he never wins another championship.
And people use to make fun of my beloved Senna........ I love team players, and he was always one with his mechanics and team.

Alonso should almost be fired for his behavior and comments about his boss and Mclaren. If we were to do that at work, we would definitely be shown the dooor.........

Mothy 10-17-2007 07:54 PM

One eye'd Aussie opinion.

All three retire with mechanical failure or driver error - none of the 'stewards' can complain and Hamilton wins WC. The guy has handled his rookie year like such a pro.

Oh - and Webber finally wins one.

Tim


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