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Moses 10-27-2007 07:16 AM

More Kool-Aid from Apple...OSX Jaguar.
 
I was prepared to be unimpressed as my present version of OSX works beautifully. This morning I downloaded and watched the 30 minute video on the new Jaguar OS. Damn! Great changes to Mail and all file handling. If there is a reason to buy Jaguar, it's probably "Time Machine". It automatically backs up files to a peripheral hard drive that is easily searchable and accessible. If you are a Mac person take a look at the Jaguar presentation. Impressive.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/guidedtour/

Uber-fanatic 10-27-2007 07:27 AM

confusing your kitties? ...this one's a Leopard!
:cool:

Moses 10-27-2007 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uber-fanatic (Post 3555250)
confusing your kitties? ...this one's a Leopard!
:cool:

You're right! Now which one is the new OS?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193499115.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193499133.jpg

billwagnon 10-27-2007 07:33 AM

I had a feline something was off. I'm glad the right answer was spotted.

widgeon13 10-27-2007 07:43 AM

I'm still using 10.2.8, what am I missing. I think I have the minimum capacity to use the new Leopard, 867 precessor, memory 640MB. I was also wondering if I was to get it, do I have to backup everything before I load the new system, don't want to drop everything off my harddrive. I am thinking about it though.

kstar 10-27-2007 07:51 AM

Here's a good review:

http://www.macworld.com/2007/10/reviews/leopard_review/index.php

Also Mossberg:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119326655774870521-_1guKieddydNBOHhvRYV4F1ZCe4_20081024.html

and Pogue:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/technology/circuits/25pogue.html?ex=1350964800&en=46e6096639495a7a&ei= 5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

I'm getting mine today, subsidized by my iPhone rebate. :D

Best,

Kurt

Uber-fanatic 10-27-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 3555272)
I'm still using 10.2.8, what am I missing. I think I have the minimum capacity to use the new Leopard, 867 precessor, memory 640MB.

YOU should go by the moniker 'Moses'! ;)

With that processor and amount of memory, stick with what works. You would probably see an increase in performance should you decide to upgrade to the 'tiger' series...10.4's; shoot, i'm running 10.4.8 on a 500 MHz power book...but you definitely want to wait a month or two before leaping onto a leopard (wait till they remove the flea's, as it were)

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 3555272)
I was also wondering if I was to get it, do I have to backup everything before I load the new system, don't want to drop everything off my harddrive. I am thinking about it though.

Just to be safe, sure. But with Mac's ability to upgrade the OS while keeping all previous info, shouldn't really be an issue.

kstar 10-27-2007 11:47 AM

Leopard is also "Unix Certified": Open Brand UNIX 03 with SUSv3 and POSIX 1003.1 conformity.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/unix.html

And some folks still think Macs are just pretty toys. :D

Best,

Kurt

911pcars 10-27-2007 09:38 PM

Before you jump in with the OS upgrade, my Mac guru sent me this:

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"For those planning on upgrading to Mac OS 10.50 (Leopard) be advised that not unlike Windows, performing a straight upgrade may do harm. Evidently Apple has released a product that has at least one serious startup problem. MacFixit claims that this is possibly due to Apple's 6 month delay in releasing Leopard backing them up to a drop-dead release date of October. Maybe this is why they waited until the very last Friday of October.

Apple originally released OS 10.00 prematurely to compete with the release of Windows XP. So don't believe that Apple won't release a premature Leopard as they run late, push into the holiday season and in the process frustrate and spook out Wall Street.

The main trouble being reported is a startup blue screen freeze following a standard upgrade. To avoid this problem it is advised to perform an "Archive and Install" . This will create a new System folder and may require reinstallation of software (e.g. Adobe CS2 and QuarkXPress). Frankly, one should always perform this type of upgrade regardless of what Mac OS you are moving up to.

Even though the OS was only released last night, many many complaints have already been logged. Some may advise to wait for at least the first patch, 10.5.1. And possibly even a new installer altogether. This last recommendation would not be unique. Initial Tiger install disks had trouble too.

Also, if you are running 10.28 and have a password longer than 8 characters, you may also have trouble with Leopard. There is a fix."
----------------

He doesn't elaborate about the fix, but I can find out if anyone is interested.

FWIW. Be careful out there.

Sherwood

SlowToady 10-27-2007 09:51 PM

This is a problem with a piece of software called APE, which is produced by Unsanity. It's not a problem with the actual Mac OSX. Basically, what this piece of software does is runtime binary patch the operating system to change the behavoir of applications. The application doesn't check the release version of OSX to disable itself, but it should, otherwise you get this error.

How anyone thought this was a good idea is completely beyond my comprehension.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 3556226)
Before you jump in with the OS upgrade, my Mac guru sent me this:

-------------------
"For those planning on upgrading to Mac OS 10.50 (Leopard) be advised that not unlike Windows, performing a straight upgrade may do harm. Evidently Apple has released a product that has at least one serious startup problem. MacFixit claims that this is possibly due to Apple's 6 month delay in releasing Leopard backing them up to a drop-dead release date of October. Maybe this is why they waited until the very last Friday of October.

Apple originally released OS 10.00 prematurely to compete with the release of Windows XP. So don't believe that Apple won't release a premature Leopard as they run late, push into the holiday season and in the process frustrate and spook out Wall Street.

The main trouble being reported is a startup blue screen freeze following a standard upgrade. To avoid this problem it is advised to perform an "Archive and Install" . This will create a new System folder and may require reinstallation of software (e.g. Adobe CS2 and QuarkXPress). Frankly, one should always perform this type of upgrade regardless of what Mac OS you are moving up to.

Even though the OS was only released last night, many many complaints have already been logged. Some may advise to wait for at least the first patch, 10.5.1. And possibly even a new installer altogether. This last recommendation would not be unique. Initial Tiger install disks had trouble too.

Also, if you are running 10.28 and have a password longer than 8 characters, you may also have trouble with Leopard. There is a fix."
----------------

He doesn't elaborate about the fix, but I can find out if anyone is interested.

FWIW. Be careful out there.

Sherwood


kstar 10-27-2007 10:36 PM

How about Leopard on an Intel based PC?

http://forum.osx86scene.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2008&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

FYI, FWIW.

Best,

Kurt


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