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osidak 11-08-2007 08:40 AM

air compressor
 
all other things being equal which one would you buy


14.5 cfm @ 40 psi
12.85 cfm @ 90 psi
130 psi max
60 gallon tank

13.1 cfm @ 40 psi
11.2 cfm @ 90 psi
155 psi max
60 gallon tank

I want to be able to use it to some light paint work and media blasting in the future but for the most part it will see duty with impact guns, air chisels and other similar work

Porsche-O-Phile 11-08-2007 08:42 AM

#1

I've been looking at various ones for the same exact use (mostly blasting). As far as I've been able to tell, flow at 90 psi is the most important thing.

gr8fl4porsche 11-08-2007 08:45 AM

Max psi is not that important. Cannot remember anytime I needed more than 125 psi. Cfm is the key.

dad911 11-08-2007 09:44 AM

#1, but they are very close . Could be different manufacturers fudging specs like they do with audio amps, etc. Media plasting needs cfms.

osidak 11-08-2007 10:07 AM

the top one is one that I saw at harbor freight for $400 (does not appear on the website) and the bottom one was one that I found at Northern Tool for $439

I was leaning towards the Northern Tool one as at least from a perception standpoint I view it as better quality. Now the question is that the actual case or not.

Any experience out there
The NT one can be seen here http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200311707_200311707

Porsche_monkey 11-08-2007 11:54 AM

I would get a 20 gallon tank that you can use for 90% of your stuff, and keep the 60 gallon tank on a shut-of valve. Open the valve and fill the 60 gallon tank only for sandblasting, or jobs that use a LOT of air. Otherwise it will be slow to charge, and you will waste a lot of energy filling it up.

Either compressor is fine, I can't imagine why 155 psi might be required. I never set mine over 120.

nota 11-08-2007 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osidak (Post 3576649)
the top one is one that I saw at harbor freight for $400 (does not appear on the website) and the bottom one was one that I found at Northern Tool for $439

I was leaning towards the Northern Tool one as at least from a perception standpoint I view it as better quality. Now the question is that the actual case or not.

Any experience out there
The NT one can be seen here http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200311707_200311707

THE ONE not made in china
PERSONAL i BUY USED
JUST TO AVOID THE NEW CHINA MADE JUNK!!!!!!

schamp 11-08-2007 03:29 PM

I have checked out some in the past and after a lot of this and that I am going to get one made by Eaton. Do a search. The one I like is 80 gal, 230 volt, 5 hp, runs at lower RPM, auto clean out or drain, a real compressor not just aluminium crap. Price to run around 1600.00 with about 150.00 delivered. Talked to their President one Saturday and was real impressed. Good luck. schamp

Zeke 11-08-2007 04:21 PM

Top one for the above reasons. You can set the pressure lower to use less electricity if you get the other one. CFM is also a function of ballast, so if you're using more than the pump can replace, a 60 gal. tank makes sense. Good idea about the 2 tank system.

Scott R 11-08-2007 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 3577230)
THE ONE not made in china
PERSONAL i BUY USED
JUST TO AVOID THE NEW CHINA MADE JUNK!!!!!!

I can't echo this enough on a compressor. My compressor is the cornerstone of my garage, it's a Devilbiss 80 gallon, one of the last companies that I could find that still makes their compressors and tools in America. I refuse to bring cheap tools into my garage, especially potentially lethal ones.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-08-2007 04:28 PM

Personally I'm leaning towards a gasoline-powered unit since electrics are a bit limited until you get to 220V service (which unfortunately, I don't have access to). If you have it, I'd look at a bigger 5 HP or larger 220V electric unit.

Scott R 11-08-2007 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 3577426)
Personally I'm leaning towards a gasoline-powered unit since electrics are a bit limited until you get to 220V service (which unfortunately, I don't have access to). If you have it, I'd look at a bigger 5 HP or larger 220V electric unit.

Where is the limitation? I think my electrician installed a 208 for mine in about 20 mins....

legion 11-08-2007 04:32 PM

Not to hijack but...

I have an air compressor with a 15 gallon tank. I have a second 5 gallon tank. How can I run them in series? The 5 gallon tank uses an automotive-style valve stem. I own a chuck that is supposed to lock on, but it won't depress the valve pin at anything over 20 psi. I've looked for something that I can screw over the valve stem, but haven't found anything.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-08-2007 04:32 PM

Apartment building. Plus even if I owned this place I probably wouldn't touch the electrical system - parts of it are 1920s.

Scott R 11-08-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 3577442)
Apartment building. Plus even if I owned this place I probably wouldn't touch the electrical system - parts of it are 1920s.

Gotcha, OK.

daleflesburg 11-08-2007 05:51 PM

I would not go for cheap on a compressor.

Get the best you can afford and it will last you a lifetime, and you will be able to will it to your sons or son-in-laws.

I have a 5hp Quincy, 1725 rpm motor, 2 stage compressor, 80 gal tank, runs quiet, like 20 cu/ft/min at 125psi. Will pump up to 175psi. Go cheap on the air tools like cut off tools, die grinders, saws etc, and consider them to be "consumables" ie use til they quit and toss them. My son recently got a cut off tool from HF for $9. He bought 2! Use til they quit and toss em. You will never be sorry you put in a really good compressor, or buy a really good welder, or a really good plasma cutter, or a really good steel blast cabinet. The cheap crap is just crap.

RickM 11-08-2007 06:43 PM

Have you looked at local store offerings? Lowes, HD, Costco and US tractor Supply (especially)?

Personally I would look to buy locally wit a good warranty.

futuresoptions 11-08-2007 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 3577441)
Not to hijack but...

I have an air compressor with a 15 gallon tank. I have a second 5 gallon tank. How can I run them in series? The 5 gallon tank uses an automotive-style valve stem. I own a chuck that is supposed to lock on, but it won't depress the valve pin at anything over 20 psi. I've looked for something that I can screw over the valve stem, but haven't found anything.

Take the valve stem out and install piping with a quick connect.SmileWavy

rexav8r 11-08-2007 07:24 PM

Here's the one I bought a while back.
DeWalt, bought at Lowes or Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HZI6F4/ref=nosim/?tag=yahoo-tools06-20&creative=380333&creativeASIN=B000HZI6F4&linkCod e=asn

So far I love it. For a permanent, fixed position unit, I might have wanted a bigger tank delivering more CFM, but I haven't run into the need yet. I needed something that can be portable if really necessary. I've lugged a buddies' bigger unit around, and it was a MUTHA !!

-interesting to hear about the 2 tank method, I was actually wondering about that. Anybody have pictures of their "home made" 2 tank system? Do you put a check valve between the 2 ?

osidak 11-08-2007 08:15 PM

both are local to me - and when I looked at lowes / HD they basically appeared to be the same thing just more $$

Wish I could afford a $1600+ compressor but I just can't. That said I want to get the best I can.........

Damn 401 and 529


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