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kstar 11-09-2007 03:26 PM

Radical Innovation: Direct Exhaust Injection (DEI)
 
This came up on the "Corvette" thread.

It deserves its own thread.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194654061.jpg

Originally appeared here:
http://www.gmmodernmuscle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2779&postdays=0&postorder=asc&star t=0

edit: From the original post at the Corvette forum:
Ok. I didn't want to mention it but I was thinking about turbo charging my Vette. I got to thinking about it and how in efficient even turbos are (compressor efficiencies of about 80% at best).

Since a turbo's function is to pressurize incoming air and force it into the upper motor, and turbos are driven by high pressure exhaust gas created from the combustion process, couldn't I just bypass the turbo altogether and route my headers back into the throttle bodies?

Since I have CFI, I could balance the DEI (direct exhaust injection as I just coined it) by feeding one header into each throttle body. Yes, the charge air wouldn’t be that cold, but it would be under a hell of a lot more pressure.

I attached a quick sketch below:


There are still a few things I need to work out:
1) How do I get the CFI aircleaner to fit in a way that hides this plumbing?
2) Does anyone make a V-band clamp that will bolt an exhaust header to a CFI throttle body?
3) What pinion angle should I use in my rear-end? I’m sure there will be a noticeable difference in torque output.

What do you guys think?


Best,

Kurt

Zeke 11-09-2007 03:28 PM

Perpetual energy.

wrecktech 11-09-2007 03:56 PM

Not as good as the gererator.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/264860-does-anyone-want-free-gererator.html?highlight=gererator

red-beard 11-09-2007 04:14 PM

Ya canna change the laws of physics

onewhippedpuppy 11-09-2007 04:35 PM

This just confirms so many stereotypes........

Normy 11-09-2007 04:40 PM

What's an EGR?

pwd72s 11-09-2007 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Normy (Post 3579463)
What's an EGR?

A power robbing device forcibly installed by government mandate...

Noah930 11-09-2007 06:12 PM

Here's another genius idea:http://www.mx6.com/forums/2g-mx6-forced-induction/194308-turbo-mod.html

equality72521 11-09-2007 06:19 PM

Looks like something you'd find here: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=853e350730 67939d160b4370bcb89f50

TechnoViking 11-09-2007 06:30 PM

Reminds me of the guy on this forum who wanted to blow the air from his AC into the fan of his air cooled motor to keep the temp down.

They probably laugh at that one on the Corvette forum.

equality72521 11-09-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Smith (Post 3579619)
Reminds me of the guy on this forum who wanted to blow the air from his AC into the fan of his air cooled motor to keep the temp down.

They probably laugh at that one on the Corvette forum.

That's like the old joke about the guy that carries a car door around with him so if he gets hot he can roll down the window.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-10-2007 04:21 AM

Make sure you suck in some silica sand first to clean out the cylinders and exhaust valves.

unimog406 11-10-2007 06:02 AM

I forget whose sig line this is, but clearly, "stupidity, like hydrogen, is one of the basic building blocks of the universe"....

sammyg2 11-10-2007 06:20 AM

Seriously think of the gas mileage, you'd never, ever have to fill the gas tank ;)

svandamme 11-10-2007 06:29 AM

i like how he wrote "the charge air would not be that cold"

think of the even bigger increase in power he'de get if adds a massive intercooler inbetween his DEI and his Manifold, and ITB's with EFI, coupled with a MAF
the MAF wont' need current as the wire will heat up automatically, it will actually generate electricity, so you can also dump the alternator, which then means better power/weight ratio
All in all, only thing left on this thing is a TPS report generator with the new style coversheets...

red-beard 11-10-2007 06:25 PM

Actually, the idea of a cold charge coming from A/C does actually occur. In large gas turbine power plants, they can run A/C systems to sub cool liquid at night, during times where the power price is low, and then run this cooling into the inlet at peak times to sub cool the air producing more output at higher effciency.

sammyg2 11-11-2007 07:05 AM

Ya know what the funniest thing is? Lots of them genius vette owners (and a few porsche owners too) didn't realize that post was a joke. They took it serious.
POWNED!

svandamme 11-11-2007 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3581607)
POWNED!

not really, since there are tards out there that will come up with such stuff

sammyg2 11-11-2007 07:23 AM

Yep there are, but I read it closer and checked out a little deeper, it was a joke.


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