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lm6y 12-02-2007 06:45 PM

Yeah she's good, but like others said, she suffers from diahrea of the fingers. When she matures, she'll be amazing.

Most young players think that every moment in music has to be filled with something. It's like talking to a teen aged girl, yackety yackety yackety, without anything being said. Or speaking to a mature older woman where you actually want to hear what she says, and she says it perfectly.

Been a bass player for about 25 years, and have been through many phases in that time. There's a time to let 'er rip, and a time to get in the pocket, and keep it warm and fuzzy without getting lost.

It's hard to find a "technical" player that isn't "dead" when you listen to them. Yngwie Malmsteen was technically perfect. Slow it down, listen to it note for note, and it's dead on. But once you get past the wow factor, you can't stand to listen to it, the music has no soul. It's cold, and dead.

Then you have a guy like Clapton who isn't technical at all, but really speaks to you, and every note drips with his soul, and feelings. He makes it seem so simple that anyone could do it, until you try.

That's why some of my favorite music is the Police's early stuff. It's open, and airy. The music breathes, and less really is more.

rouxroux 12-02-2007 06:50 PM

Hmmmm, let's divide the number of notes played in any given time by the square of the pocket, and then add in the comp time and......OH MY GOD...Rocco is going to be out of a job! 'nuff said.

Garibaldi/Prestia...it's a time & feel thing (you would not understand);)

targa911S 12-02-2007 07:52 PM

47 years as a bass player, grew up in the shadow of CKLW in Det. The Motown music boomed across the lake to my young ears and burned a permanent groove in my brain. I have never been anything but a pocket bassist in pretty much lock step with anybodies shuffle. I leave the edge of the stage for the guitarists and singers. But I AM the time keeper. Sooner or later they all get that.

I guess, in short, can I play like her? no .not at all. Do I wish I could? No not at all. Never has been my style.

I think that I saw her as a fresh young face, having fun with a wrinkled old face and doing what we all love. It was just refreshing to see. Her talent was apparent no matter the style.

Mule 12-02-2007 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3621306)
In the above U-Tube piece, her role wasn't merely to provide a Bass Line but to be a foil or be a rhythm guitarist against JB. Experience leads one to know less is more. She seems to understand the art of subtlety in her phrasing. But from this one piece I can't tell if she is a mere technician.

I was going to mention Jack Bruce and Cream before I saw the Cream U-Tube piece. Listening to Cream run is like taking a hit of Spike up the nose. Pure cerebral candy. Bruce could run the Bass note for note against Clapton.

The guy I want to hear is Bootsy Collins. I have just never taken the time to do it.

Now, if I can just get you smoking some good cigars.;)

nostatic 12-02-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rouxroux (Post 3621707)
Hmmmm, let's divide the number of notes played in any given time by the square of the pocket, and then add in the comp time and......OH MY GOD...Rocco is going to be out of a job! 'nuff said.

Garibaldi/Prestia...it's a time & feel thing (you would not understand);)

might understand more than you think. If you think it comes down to math, then maybe you don't understand ;)

Rocco kicks arse. But every tune he plays isn't "What is Hip." Actually one of my old bass players opened for ToP many years back. He is a monster slap player but also was a big fan of Prestia. And he said he didn't disappoint live.

As has been said by a couple of people, she is good but has plenty to learn. Don't we all...but age/experience/perspective is a funny thing.

rouxroux 12-02-2007 09:20 PM

Geez...I was not even talking to you. hehe.
(At least I pronounce Mr. Moog's name correctly). lighten up.

Mule 12-03-2007 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 3621919)
might understand more than you think. If you think it comes down to math, then maybe you don't understand ;)

Rocco kicks arse. But every tune he plays isn't "What is Hip." Actually one of my old bass players opened for ToP many years back. He is a monster slap player but also was a big fan of Prestia. And he said he didn't disappoint live.

As has been said by a couple of people, she is good but has plenty to learn. Don't we all...but age/experience/perspective is a funny thing.

Welcome to Escoterica!

kach22i 12-03-2007 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rouxroux (Post 3619548)
And a nice touch on "Because we ended as lovers"...

I caught the concert at that point and up to the end.

I was glued to it, great show.

nostatic 12-03-2007 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3622221)
Welcome to Escoterica!

you mean kinda like expensive cigar brands? ;)

http://www.roccoprestia.com/

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rouxroux 12-03-2007 07:26 AM

Nice clip! Love watching Lenny & Lenny jump around. Chester was a major part of the rhythm section trifecta as well! ( speaking of bass lines, most bass players would be proud to be able to play his pedal bass lines like he used to do on "Squib Cakes")... Was so good seeing him reunited with TOP at Montreaux last year ( Did Santana seem like a "fish out of water" sitting in w/TOP)? I've still got a 1974 recording of a live in-studio concert broadcast on KLIR that was way before the "red" live LP, such fun).

Mule 12-03-2007 07:26 AM

Actually, I avoid the overpriced labels with reviews like, leathery, chocolaty, with a smattering of whipped cream and a cherry on top. My choices generally evoke responses like DAMN GOOD!

Padron, Camacho, Rocky Patel.

jluetjen 12-03-2007 06:04 PM

Ok, I'm a former drummer, not a base player, but I've always been impressed by Tony Levin. Not just for his grooves and stick playing, but because I always get the impression that he's getting everything out of his instrument. It's also pretty surprising some of the places where he's turned up...

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My favorite!
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It seems that he's played with just about everyone from a lot of different styles. From Alice Cooper's "Welcome to my Nightmare" to Carly Simon.

nostatic 12-03-2007 07:35 PM

Tony Levin is a god. His work with Peter Gabriel is absolutely sublime.

Fripp and Belew are whack. In a good way. Mostly.

rouxroux 12-03-2007 07:40 PM

Thela Hun Ginjeet!


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