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HardDrive 12-07-2007 11:40 AM

So its not a hate crime if your white?
 
Wow am I fed the f*ck up with this PC baloney.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1089067~Students_beat_woman_on_city_bus__police_sa y.html

Can you imagine if it had been 9 white kids beating up a black woman? Jesse and Sharpton would be driving to the nearest TV station at 100mph to make a statement in support of their 'sister'.

African American leaders perfectly reflect the community they represent: Morally bankrupt and unwilling to take responsibility.

Please note, that when I say 'the community they represent', this probably only accounts for about 25% of the black folks in this country. I think the majority of blacks are just as disgusted with these guys as whites. Can you imagine working your butt off your whole life, then having idiots like this claiming they represent you?

Seric 12-07-2007 11:45 AM

Sounds like they just got to Civicl Rights and the whole Rosa Parks thing in History Class. Probably taught by some ex-Black Panther officer and they took it a little to far...

Jeff Higgins 12-07-2007 11:52 AM

Their races would have been prominantly diplayed in the headlines if they were reversed, not as almost an afterthought well down towards the end of the article.

masraum 12-07-2007 12:00 PM

It's a shame that someone didn't pull out a gun and cap a couple of them. I have no tolerance for this sort of thing whether they are 40yo, 20yo, or 13yo.

Seahawk 12-07-2007 12:04 PM

If I was 14 or 15 and had a hand in this, God help me when I got home.

The color angle is far less important than, "where are their parents".

We have lost the ability to shame, which is a shame.

billwagnon 12-07-2007 12:08 PM

http://www.examiner.com/a-1091394~Students_blame_beating_victim.html

livi 12-07-2007 12:12 PM

Nine black hooligans the world could do without. What´s the matter with kids nowadays. Completely lacking normal boundaries of empathy and moral. Getting worse everyday, everywhere. The world needs more condoms..

skipdup 12-07-2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 3631894)
Their races would have been prominantly diplayed in the headlines if they were reversed, not as almost an afterthought well down towards the end of the article.

There would be riots if the races were reversed.

HardDrive 12-07-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3631938)
Nine black hooligans the world could do without. What´s the matter with kids nowadays. Completely lacking normal boundaries of empathy and moral. Getting worse everyday, everywhere. The world needs more condoms..

Well thats it exactly. It really does not matter that they are black hooligans. A thug is a thug. And they should be punished.

.......except for the fact that if they were white, this would be front page news, and black leaders would be having a circus. Yet another tidy corner of MORAL BANKRUPTCY afflicting our nation.

Rick Lee 12-07-2007 12:35 PM

It's equally outrageous that we even have hate crimes laws. Thought is truly criminal now. Why is someone's life worth more under the law than another person's because race was a motivating factor in their murder? Aren't both equally dead? Is anyone deterred by the additional hate crimes penalty when the assault or murder rap doesn't deter them? Yeah, we need more feel good, do nothing laws to protect the gov't-favored grievance groups.

Mule 12-07-2007 12:51 PM

I don't know about you but I'm ready to set my neighborhood on fire!

Dantilla 12-07-2007 12:58 PM

Aren't all crimes hate crimes?

livi 12-07-2007 12:59 PM

Equally dead. Good phrase!

Pretty dead..

Partially dead..

Dead, deadier, deadiest..

As dead as possible..

Incredibly dead..

More than dead..

Less dead..

:D

Mule 12-07-2007 01:08 PM

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nostatic 12-07-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 3631918)
If I was 14 or 15 and had a hand in this, God help me when I got home.

The color angle is far less important than, "where are their parents".

We have lost the ability to shame, which is a shame.

+1000

Tow of the most important things I've taught my son are empathy and that there are consequences for your actions. And you should feel bad if you do something bad.

M.D. Holloway 12-07-2007 01:28 PM

Where are the kids Fathers? Ya, thought so...

The Gaijin 12-07-2007 01:43 PM

Ages 14 and 15 in middle school? Dummies too.

Baltimore is an absolute shi*hole. One of the worse places in this country. Got my old car stolen down there last year. They found it, so I had to pick it up from the impound yard. Treat me like I am some fu*king scofflaw. Then to go to court. Junkie piece of *****. The judge thanked me for showing up. The skell is out on parole. More drug charges, my car stolen, used my car to commit more crimes - he gets three years. Most likely out next year to start it all over again.

RANDY P 12-07-2007 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3632005)
I don't know about you but I'm ready to set my neighborhood on fire!


My ex told me about the riots when she lived in Brentwood- the cops didn't care if they trashed their own place, but when they got out of the hood then they stepped in.

That's the problem with the world today. Feelings matter too much. People are afraid to call a spade a spade (no racial pun intended)

rjp

Rick Lee 12-07-2007 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 3632108)
Ages 14 and 15 in middle school? Dummies too.

Baltimore is an absolute shi*hole. One of the worse places in this country.

Truer words were never spoken. No chance of it getting better anytime soon too. Current mayor thinks the perps are the victims. Former mayor was the same way and now he's the governor.

Flatbutt1 12-07-2007 02:00 PM

read the newark article. the victim is"awaiting trial on drug charges" "and she alledgedly called them n***ers". so you watch, she'll be blamed for starting the fight thus justifying a gang beating.

so can I beat the **** out of somebody and just claim they called me a filthy guinea/wop? oh no thats right, guinea /wop isn't as hurtful as n***er:rolleyes:

can I just resign from the human race?

Dixie 12-07-2007 02:37 PM

Quote:

Their bus tickets — provided by the school — have been revoked, Greene said. “Riding the bus is a privilege"...
Justice served. Nothing more to see. Move along now...

MichiganMat 12-07-2007 02:45 PM

Bus Attack Investigated As Hate Crime

http://www.examiner.com/a-1092580~Bus_Attack_Investigated_As_Hate_Crime.html

john70t 12-07-2007 02:49 PM

I was involved in a similar incident a decade ago in San Fransico on a Mun(Mission and Army st).
A 30-something Chinese woman was standing about 5 feet in front of me and suddenly got jumped by three girls and two guys. I pulled them off her and they jumped out at the next stop, laughing.

They were smart enough not to hit me, but the uptight woman never said thanks or any acknologment.

Chuck Moreland 12-07-2007 02:56 PM

The article says the kid's bus passes have been revoked, so justice has been served :rolleyes:

billh1963 12-07-2007 03:19 PM

As the thugs (of any race) of our society are allowed to act out and are given a free pass because of their "plight" we can expect more and more of this. It will only get worse.

JCF 12-07-2007 03:48 PM

Wait a sec fellows (before you riot); weren't the criminals arrested for aggravated assault ?
Seems it will not end (I really hope) with just the cancelled bus passes.

Yes they were black.
Yes they are criminals and should be prosecuted to the full extent.
But where is the "p.c. BS" exactly ?
What am I missing ?

Wasn't the man who came to the aid of the woman black also ?

You are part of the solution or part of the problem.

id10t 12-07-2007 03:58 PM

JFX - I believe that if the races were reversed, like one of the original posters said, you would have Al and Jesse on the news decrying it and organizing a march in seconds. Also, it would cover the nations headlines for a day or two, have several minutes every half hour on CNN for 12-24 hours, interrup your local programming with special updates and statements from the "reverends" demanding charges of hate crimes, lawsuits, etc. be brought, and so on...

JCF 12-07-2007 04:07 PM

So you thinKKK things would get better if a bunch of stupid white folks got together to scream and yell and stir up the mud ?
Yes, I would love it if The Rev's would stand against hate crimes of all persuasions , but they are not trying to solve the problem, only shine the light on themselves.
They are part of the problem.
As are all those that use an unfortunate incident like this to promote their point of view.

Why don't we let the rule of law take its course and save the histrionics for the hysterical.

cstreit 12-07-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 3631938)
Nine black hooligans the world could do without. What´s the matter with kids nowadays. Completely lacking normal boundaries of empathy and moral. Getting worse everyday, everywhere. The world needs more condoms..

Lucky for them they weren't in Joe Horns yard. ;)

skipdup 12-07-2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCF (Post 3632386)
So you thinKKK things would get better if a bunch of stupid white folks got together to scream and yell and stir up the mud ?
...

Nope. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. You really missed that?

DARISC 12-07-2007 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCF (Post 3632386)
Why don't we let the rule of law take its course and save the histrionics for the hysterical.

Well, your attempts at unbiased, logical and objective analysis are a bit much here buddy! Just because you are "sensitive" to the racial problems that certain races cause in this country (choose your hue, we have lots of them) and are anti-histrionic doesn't mean everyone is.

Before you continue spouting off you might want to hold a wet finger in the air and see which way the predominant wind blows, no matter if it smells bad to you - it obviously doesn't to a lot of people creating that wind. Ever think that you're pisssing into it buddy?

HardDrive 12-07-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCF (Post 3632386)
So you thinKKK things would get better if a bunch of stupid white folks got together to scream and yell and stir up the mud ?
Yes, I would love it if The Rev's would stand against hate crimes of all persuasions , but they are not trying to solve the problem, only shine the light on themselves.
They are part of the problem.
As are all those that use an unfortunate incident like this to promote their point of view.

Why don't we let the rule of law take its course and save the histrionics for the hysterical.

You are TOTALLY missing the point of OT. Its all about hysterical histrionics.

id10t 12-07-2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 3632552)
You are TOTALLY missing the point of OT. Its all about hysterical histrionics.

You left out the part about trying to sneak boobie pix past the Z Man....

DARISC 12-07-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 3632552)
You are TOTALLY missing the point of OT. Its all about hysterical histrionics.

THAT is hysterically funny! True, too!

JCF 12-07-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARISC (Post 3632526)
Well, your attempts at unbiased, logical and objective analysis are a bit much here buddy! Just because you are "sensitive" to the racial problems that certain races cause in this country (choose your hue, we have lots of them) and are anti-histrionic doesn't mean everyone is.

Before you continue spouting off you might want to hold a wet finger in the air and see which way the predominant wind blows, no matter if it smells bad to you - it obviously doesn't to a lot of people creating that wind. Ever think that you're pisssing into it buddy?

I see we have entered the ghetto of OT here.
I am holding up a finger buddy - can you guess which one it is ? :D

jackpine savage 12-07-2007 06:35 PM

Why'd the boyfriend try to put her back on the bus?!




(come up with your own punchline)











no pun intended:p

DARISC 12-07-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackpine savage (Post 3632622)
Why'd the boyfriend try to put her back on the bus?!
(come up with your own punchline)
no pun intended:p

Subliminal racial hatred: His 2nd uncle's great grandfather's third cousin twice removed was related to Obama.......and Cheney.

PatrickB 12-07-2007 10:53 PM

Interesting you don't have these types of incidents happening in states where almost everyone carries concealed weapons...

Por_sha911 12-08-2007 06:04 AM

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

Terms like "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," "Caveman"... are O.K. But if someone uses Nigger, Towel-head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... they're a racist.

There is the United Negro College Fund, Martin Luther King Day, Black History Month, Cesar Chavez Day, NAACP, and BET.

If some had WET (White Entertainment Television) ... they're racists. If someone started White Pride Day.. they would be called racists. If they had White History Month .. they'd be racists. If they had any organization for only whites to "advance" their lives ... they'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

If they had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know they'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were "White colleges" .. THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, men believed that they were marching for their race and rights. If white men marched for their race and rights (Sadly some do), they'd be racists.

It is O.K. to be proud to be black, brown, yellow and red, and not be afraid to announce it. But if someone announced their white pride ... they'd be racists.

I don't get it. Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Mule 12-08-2007 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCF (Post 3632386)
So you thinKKK things would get better if a bunch of stupid white folks got together to scream and yell and stir up the mud ?
Yes, I would love it if The Rev's would stand against hate crimes of all persuasions , but they are not trying to solve the problem, only shine the light on themselves.
They are part of the problem.
As are all those that use an unfortunate incident like this to promote their point of view.

Why don't we let the rule of law take its course and save the histrionics for the hysterical.

You might want to send a note on that subject to Jesse & Al.


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