Are you back on probation? :)

She's gorgeous. Thanks for trying to share...

Cheers,

Paul.

I have more of an issue with the whiners than the moderators. The whiners are sitting there leching at the pics & then one day the ball & chain bust's 'em. So now they get religion.

K! Good to have you back!

It is a pity, breasts are a beautiful addition to life and should be honored not banned. Funny isn't it, I can post about azsex I had with a now supermodel, snowy can rant is white banter and tabs can talk all day about guns and spoons not to mention the implications of Joes pics on the girls he does over seas.

What a strange and wonderous world we live in...

+1

Note to the whiners: You do not have any "right" not to be offended! Grow the F*ck up.

If you know there may be pictures in a thread that you might find offensive, or your "spouse" or "daughter" (won't somebody think of the children!?!?!?!?!) will not like ... don't look at the thread. Simple, elegant, and all it requires is self-control on your part.

"Oh, but I waaaaaaaahhhnt to look, so everyone else has to change to suit me... and I'll couch my selfishness in piety, sanctimony and 'objectification' language."

You have no "right" to distort a thread to your idiosyncracies. Obviously, the natural trend for the random picture thread, is towards skin and breasts. Yes, there is a "grid girls" thread, so? We, the majority of those who post here, have no issue with, and some enjoy, having breasteses on the RP thread. Deal with it.

If you want a thread you can feel 'safe' looking at, start your own. Ask Z-man to "super moderate" it. Any skin at all; anything that could possibly, in any way shape or form, offend anybody, or their spouse or child, gets spiked. If the rest of us, ie the "market" think/feel/fear the way you do, it'll get a million hits as well. My bet is it won't. The lowest common denominator, in this case, "who can win the most easily offended sweepstakes", doesn't appeal to anybody, except those trying to out-sensitive and out-sanctimony each other.

Your hang-ups are a "you" problem, not a problem with dzls or K roman or anybody else. "You" don't want to see... "you" find it objectionable ... etc. Too bad. Stop making you problems into our problems. Don't freaking look.

And if you got "caught" or embarrassed by an image, and your s/o or child is offended... that's still a "you" problem. If, knowing there are likely to be images unsuitable for a child, you click on the thread when a child could wander into the room --> YOU problem; you take responsibility. For once.

If the spouse is offended, and she can't understand this is a bunch of guys, from around the world, for whom this is a clubhouse/locker room/private lounge ... that's a "her" problem that she's making into a "you" problem. Deal with it yourself, rather than try to force, coerce, and or guilt through piety all of the rest of us to fit your (or your spouse's) ideal "why can't all guys act like they did in 1950s movies?" world.

BTW -- I have no issue with z-man's discretion. I think he's got a pretty good barometer for acceptable, and if he errs on the side of caution, so be it.

You are cowards; and not because you don't like to/want to see prurient images (let's cut that deliberate misinterpretation for martyrdom off at the pass). I do not have, and I don't believe anybody here has, any "problem" with people who don't want to see boobies. But don't force your fear on those of us who either like the images, or are indifferent to them.

What I'd like is if Z-man had the stones to post the identity of each member of the self-appointed moral Gestapo who messages him with a complaint. Don't let our craven moral superiors and arbiters of propriety hide behind anonymity, Z! Don't be the proxy of those who don't have the stones to identify themselves, but yet want us to conform to their version of acceptable. Don't enable the cowards!

There is no right not to be offended. Grow up, and drop the "I'm offended, and therefore morally superior, so you must act how I want... so I won't have to be offended again" martyrdom. Pathetic. In fact, if this is how you "reason," please don't have kids. ever.

How about this, Z: Image deleted because _________ complained, and was incapable of exercising the self control not to look at this thread again.

Welcome Back, K(otter) Roman! Huzzah!

I agree to a point. However, there's a certain amount of decorum/common courtesy that should be exercised with such things by prefacing them with "NWS" or similar descriptors. I was one of the ones that complained (not to Z-man directly, but publicly to dzl and a couple of others), not because I don't enjoy a nice pic of big soft bouncy boobs occasionally, but because I find it annoying that a "random picture thread" had become so. . . not random. In fact, predictably juvenile. Cliche even.

I USED TO like going on to the R.P.T. for an occasional chuckle at work or whatever, but when it crossed the line with a bunch of imbeciles with junior-high-level intellects trying to "out-porn" each other I couldn't. If anyone got shafted here, it's not the giggly pre-teens acting like they just found their dad's playboy collection and that it gives them a boner, it's the rest of us that can actually be entertained by something other than titties. That's what the R.P.T. was SUPPOSED to be - random. Strange. Unexpected. And yes, that would include (in my definition) an OCCASIONAL bikini-clad hottie.

But that's not what happened. It was post after post after post of the same old stuff. If I want that, there are numerous porn sites only a click away.

I don't see how entertainment for EVERYONE had to be hijacked in order to titillate the most obviously indiscriminate among us. I for one felt a bit ripped off by not being able to enjoy a good momentary bit of entertainment by opening the R.P.T. because there might be some giant picture of a girl's tits on my screen right as a client or one of my female co-workers walks in. If I have a weird or RANDOM (remember that operative word?) picture on the screen, I could say, "hey check this out" and have it be a conversation piece before going back into work discussion with them. It's a bit harder to do when it's some chick's snatch or naked tits. Same goes for at home with peoples' wives/significant others. If you've got weird or random stuff on the screen, it's typically things ANYONE can enjoy or take interest in. If it's gratuitous nudity, there's an automatic assumption that the viewer is a pervert and wacking off under the table while talking to you. Eww.

See the distinction?

Want to get your rocks off and post your titty pics? Fine. Put it in a "NWS" thread or the grid girls thread or something else where most people will know enough not to open it when they're not at home with the blinds drawn and the lights off.

And yes, that gal from page3 is pretty hot too, FWIW.

I thought both parties agreed that this was Wayne's house and we play by his rules. Wayne said no booby pictures, simple as that. Which part of that did you not get?

There are some people who "whine" about their spouse or kid seeing those pictures; then there are people including myself, Paul and Sammy whose basis was not our family looking over our shoulders but a genuine concern for the longevity of the forum when all the dirty contents get posted and linked. You crybabies never seem to get that point.

It does, however, make it easier for you to argue an invalid point when you generalize at your convenience, doesn't it?

It's a bit of a hash, but my comments are underlined.

So RPT became something you didn't want... and therefore, it was "hijacked". There are a lot of you issues in the foregoing post, a few of which I've highlighted. You want, you thought, you want to share, you want to look at work, you, you you. But it's all of the guys posting what they like to see that are selfish and wrong... because they're denying you what you want.

In short: "Everybody else change, so I can look at something I want to look at, whenever and how ever I want. And it's everybody else that's wrong and the vast majority should start their "own thread", so I can enjoy and control the direction of "my" thread in the manner I, and not the majority, deem appropriate. Because that's what I want."

There may be other, subtle and/or sanctimonious ways to express the foregoing, with liberal heaps of disdain for any male who would want to (or, even, not object to) see scantily clad women -- but that's what this all boils down to.

"I have a right not to be offended, which means that the rest of the community, which has expressed what it wants by virtue of what's actually being posted, must conform to what I want, and to what I believe the thread should be."

No respect for that. JMHO.

JP

Where/when did Wayne say this? Exactly, precisely, please provide a citation. I want to make sure exactly what I missed.

Once you've done that, bend your limited intellect around this --> Wayne has appointed moderators, whose actions are, by extension, his policy. And Z-man has allowed some pix of boobies; so ... focus hard here ... some pix are OK, some aren't... according to the Rules of Wayne, as practiced. And I've stipulated that Z-man does a pretty good job of determining acceptable.

Re-read the foregoing.

You obviously missed that subtlety in your haste to post a response ... ANY response. And include the word 'crybabies'. Done with you, fool. Jeff, if you think this tool has a point, do you want to try to make it for him?

If you cannot reconcile (much less meet) my request for a citation for "Wayne said no booby pictures, simple as that" and the actual practice that, through his agents the moderators, some level of exposure is OK, I can understand how your most dangerous rhetorical weapon is a rhetorical question; that completely misses the point.

JP

This forum is part of a business, Pelican Parts. If I were a business owner, I would require that the posts on my forums be G or PG-rated. There is no upside for most businesses to be associated with anything racier than that, and potential downside if things get out of hand.

JP,

Your post is as hypocritical as it is intellectually barren.

Using the SAME EXACT points you've cited, you could justify doing whatever YOU want, whenever YOU want, simply by saying "anyone who disagrees with me is selfish" and their opinion carries no more weight than mine. C'mon. Let's bring this up a notch or two. Do you HONESTLY think you have the right to do whatever you damn well please regardless of stated policy or rules by the people (like Z-man) who actually have authority around here? It wasn't just about "what I wanted", I was merely clarifying my personal position on it so as to express how it fit (or more correctly "didn't fit") your gross generalization that everyone who complained was a prude and a whiner.

If I were invited to Wayne's house, I wouldn't bring the discussion down to the gutter for the sake of doing so. This is no different. He's been extremely generous (as has Z-man) with the amount of crap tolerated from people like yourself who obviously put their own selfish desires above the rules and above what common sense would dictate.

I'll make it as simplistic as possible so that even you might understand it, how about this for a basic rule-of-thumb (and Z-man is welcome to back, revise, expand upon or refute this, but it's my understanding of the "law of the land" here): "THOU SHALT NOT BE AN ********* IN WAYNE'S HOUSE"

Pissing on Z-man's stated rules in order to titillate your own juvenile urges is the only selfishness apparent here.

Get over yourself. You hardly have the intellectually or morally superior position here. Let it go.

I'm offended that some of you (obvious homos) think that boobies are "random." You degrade the sanctity of boobies by so characterizing them.

+1

screw all that dribble;

man! that woman is hot! natural? is she a san francisco girl? if so, i am happy that all the good looking guys are gay. i would march in any parade for, less competition.

welcome back dude.

It would appear to be an extension of society and societal norms, wouldn't it? All the murder, rape, drug abuse, other assorted violence and ugliness that takes place on TV and media outlets is fine, but a woman naked....Well, we simply cannot tolerate such a horrendous affront. How did it come to be, that, as a society, we tolerate, enjoy, even, murder and violence as pass times (TV and movies, books, video games...) but naked women are all too taboo. We had a thread on this just the other week.

You can't really blame Wayne, though. After all, this BBS is an extension of his business, and as such, there are certain norms he (and by extension, his business, and his BBS) must conform to. As society has deemed naked women unacceptable, he has decided to disallow naked women. If you've got a problem with that, you're problem is bigger than Wayne and Z-Man.

--Slow

PS: Welcome back K. I, for one, greatly enjoyed that picture you posted:)

I said it before. We need a thread called "DO NOT CLICK ON THIS THREAD." Again, I think Wayne & the guys have been tolerant enough. I had a pic removed & when I went back & looked, it had some nippleage that had slipped past my cursory scan before posting. My bad. But all the whining from the easily offended? Give me a break. If somebody starts a thread called "hot gay porn stars," it's not an issue to me 'cause I ain't clickin'. GTF over it whiners!

"Pairs" of anything are not random occurances imo :)

I have to admit, looking at boobies are fun. I found it similar to walking through a mechanics garage and taking a peek at some of their posters etc.. However, I had my son on my lap once surfing Pelican and bang. My son said "that's mommy"!? Since then I didn't open that thread when my son was with me. I say just use good judgement and lets have fun like we always do!

As per OT forum guidelines:
There's a reason why pictures of women wearing g-strings with questionable camera angles are found in pornographic websites; because they are! I suggest you, or anyone, don't bring up the issue of American vs. European accepted norm of what "porn" is, because if you do believe this perception can be changed, well guess what, you fit the exact description of JP's "YOU problematic" people. Ask yourself: Why does the society have to change for something YOU want/dislike? Oh wait, do you see something going on here? If everyone did as you suggested, JP, and stayed out of everything they didn't like instead of challenging it, I don't think we would get far as a whole. You sound like a very vocal person, so let me ask you, do you always stay out of issues that bother you? Are you that much of a conformist?

Even after that "purge" of random pics thread few pages back, there have been pictures of attractive women (which, I stress again, were welcomed with a freakin' Nazi salute; shows some genuine qualities, eh?) that Z-man deemed acceptable. Excuse my limited intellect but what is the point you're trying to make with this fact? Borrowing Joe's words from this very thread, life isn't fair and you live with it. I'd think a person of such high intellectual esteem would understand that.

My apologies if you were personally offended by the word "crybaby", JP. And please, "... the rest of the community, which has expressed what it wants by virtue of what's actually being posted"? Since when those handful of people represented this community?

It doesn't appear that the mods/Wayne object to breasts in general as evidenced by the previous picture in this post, what appears objectionable is the view of "areola". I really don't care what the rule is but it seems pretty liberal to me. I think we need more pics in order to bracket the rule with acceptable examples.:D:D:D