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gassy 12-15-2007 09:43 AM
Proof of WMD's. Finally.
 
http://break.com/index/maybe-we-did-overestimate-the-threat.html

:D

livi 12-15-2007 09:50 AM
Don´t show this to W. He will go berserk. :D

Besides that, is it because I know the character of those men and what they did, that make them look so incredibly stupid ? I mean, look at their faces, they all look like retards.

sammyg2 12-15-2007 11:15 AM
Maybe the rest of the world should shut the heck up except to say "thank you" to GW for cleaning up their mess. If they had any clue or self-restraint there wouldn't have been as much of a need to get rid of the WMD. What i find interesting is that many of the countries who claim there never were WMD have been proven to have SUPPLIED equipment or components to make the WMD. Maybe they just have a guilty conscience want to pretend it never happened.

Quote:
1975 — Saddam Hussein arrived in Moscow in April. He asked about building an advanced model of an atomic power station. Moscow would approve, but only if the station was regulated by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Iraq refused.

After 6 months France agreed to sell 72 kg of 93% Uranium and built the atomic power station without International Atomic Energy Agency control at a price of $3 billion.
In the early 1970s, Saddam Hussein ordered the creation of a clandestine nuclear weapons program. Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs were assisted by a wide variety of firms and governments in the 1970s and 1980s. As part of Project 922, German firms such as Karl Kobe helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and tear gasses in all. This work allowed Iraq to produce 150 tons of mustard agent and 60 tons of Tabun in 1983 and 1984 respectively, continuing throughout the decade. Five other German firms supplied equipment to manufacture botulin toxin and mycotoxin for germ warfare. In 1988, German engineers presented centrifuge data that helped Iraq expand its nuclear weapons program. Laboratory equipment and other information was provided, involving many German engineers. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin. The State Establishment for Pesticide Production (SEPP) ordered culture media and incubators from Germany's Water Engineering Trading.

France built Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in the late 1970s. Israel claimed that Iraq was getting close to building nuclear weapons, and so bombed it in 1981. Later, a French company built a turnkey factory which helped make nuclear fuel. France also provided glass-lined reactors, tanks, vessels, and columns used for the production of chemical weapons. Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was French. Strains of dual-use biological material also helped advance Iraq’s biological warfare program.
Italy gave Iraq plutonium extraction facilities that advanced Iraq’s nuclear weapon program. 75,000 shells and rockets designed for chemical weapon use also came from Italy. Between 1979 and 1982 Italy gave depleted, natural, and low-enriched uranium. Swiss companies aided in Iraq’s nuclear weapons development in the form of specialized presses, milling machines, grinding machines, electrical discharge machines, and equipment for processing uranium to nuclear weapon grade. Brazil secretly aided the Iraqi nuclear weapon program by supplying natural uranium dioxide between 1981 and 1982 without notifying the IAEA. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil.
The United Kingdom paid for a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas. The government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill permission to supply parts for the Iraqi supergun, precipitating the Arms-to-Iraq affair when it became known.
An Austrian company gave Iraq calutrons for enriching uranium. The nation also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure, 16% of the international sales. Singapore gave 4,515 tons of precursors for VX, sarin, tabun, and mustard gasses to Iraq. The Dutch gave 4,261 tons of precursors for sarin, tabun, mustard, and tear gasses to Iraq. Egypt gave 2,400 tons of tabun and sarin precursors to Iraq and 28,500 tons of weapons designed for carrying chemical munitions. India gave 2,343 tons of precursors to VX, tabun, Sarin, and mustard gasses. Luxembourg gave Iraq 650 tons of mustard gas precursors. Spain gave Iraq 57,500 munitions designed for carrying chemical weapons. In addition, they provided reactors, condensers, columns and tanks for Iraq’s chemical warfare program, 4.4% of the international sales. China provided 45,000 munitions designed for chemical warfare. Portugal provided yellowcake between 1980 and 1982. Niger provided yellowcake in 1981.

Amazing, isn't it? References for the above material is readily available. Yet we still have morons who insist there were no WMD because they heard someone else say it and they liked the way it sounded.

Remember which countries were most vocal against the US going onto Iraq after the WMD? Russia, France, and Germany. The three coultries that had supplied the most material, technology, and materials to make those WMD.
Could it be that they were so tightly wound up in Iraq's programs that they knew the WMD were either destroyed or hidden or moved?

Racerbvd 12-15-2007 11:19 AM
Liberal are the real WMD, they are destroying this great country from the inside:mad:

HardDrive 12-15-2007 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3647220)
Maybe the rest of the world should shut the heck up except to say "thank you" to GW for cleaning up their mess.

*sniff*.....ahhhhhh......I love the smell of fresh moonbat in the morning....

HardDrive 12-15-2007 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 3647223)
Liberal are the real WMD, they are destroying this great country from the inside:mad:
Ohhhhhhh....and some fresh squeezed Florida moonbat too!

island911 12-15-2007 11:50 AM
Ah, the art of dismissiveness...

Sammy is spot on, as usual. It sure looks like fun for the Bush-bashers to paint Saddam as a bumbling fool. ...pretend that Saddams quest for power and Saddams need to provoke the US were all just a big misunderstanding. :rolleyes:

sammyg2 12-15-2007 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 3647225)
*sniff*.....ahhhhhh......I love the smell of fresh moonbat in the morning....
Soooo, you're response to my post is to call names in an attempt to discredit the information I posted because it is contrary to your position. You've read and studied the liberal manual well:
"Whenever you are confronted by the truth, put your fingers in your ears and hum loudly"

tabs 12-15-2007 12:36 PM
U mean the Iraqies actually produced those weapons in that video? My Gawd GW was right on, we needed to keep those weapons outa the hands of such a brutal madman bent on the destruction of the free world.

cool_chick 12-15-2007 12:41 PM
That's awesome, gassy. LOL

alf 12-15-2007 12:53 PM
Sammy, you have to admit that was a pretty funny video :)

RoninLB 12-15-2007 01:17 PM
General Vo Nguyen Giap

General Giap was a brilliant, highly respected leader of the North Vietnam military. The following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam war memorial in Hanoi:

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

General Giap has published his memoirs and confirmed what most Americans knew. The Vietnam war was not lost in Vietnam -- it was lost at home. The exact same slippery slope, sponsored by the US media, is currently well underway. It exposes the enormous power of a biased media to cut out the heart and will of the American public.

A truism worthy of note: Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media far more, for they will destroy your honor.

Hard-Deck 12-15-2007 01:52 PM
I already had proof, I was on the first rotation.

Dantilla 12-15-2007 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapper33 (Post 3647499)
I already had proof, I was on the first rotation.
Thank you for your service.

Tim Hancock 12-15-2007 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 3647748)
Thank you for your service.

+1

RPKESQ 12-15-2007 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3647220)
Maybe the rest of the world should shut the heck up except to say "thank you" to GW for cleaning up their mess. If they had any clue or self-restraint there wouldn't have been as much of a need to get rid of the WMD. What i find interesting is that many of the countries who claim there never were WMD have been proven to have SUPPLIED equipment or components to make the WMD. Maybe they just have a guilty conscience want to pretend it never happened.




Amazing, isn't it? References for the above material is readily available. Yet we still have morons who insist there were no WMD because they heard someone else say it and they liked the way it sounded.

Remember which countries were most vocal against the US going onto Iraq after the WMD? Russia, France, and Germany. The three coultries that had supplied the most material, technology, and materials to make those WMD.
Could it be that they were so tightly wound up in Iraq's programs that they knew the WMD were either destroyed or hidden or moved?
Yeah it is amazing. Amazingly half-assed research.
Where are all of the WMD components that the US sold to Saddam listed? And where is all of the WMD's that were sold after Gulf War I? What no listings?

So you are accusing other countries of selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq when the US was selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq? Yeah, I can see where that is just wrong of those countries.

Almost all (99%) WMD type stuff was destroyed in Gulf War I. Look it up.

So where is all the vast WMD stuff that Saddam was able to acquire after the first Gulf War? You know the immense quantity of WMD stuff that Butthead Bush stated was the initial reason for Gulf War II? Funny how it has never been found.

But that's alright, just keep believing in the nitwit you elected, no matter how many of his lies are exposed. He has been very profitable to me. His ability to lower the value of the US dollar is greatly appreciated.

gassy 12-15-2007 05:26 PM
All Hail the ...

Slingshot!

hahahahahaha

CC-pm me

fintstone 12-15-2007 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3647818)
Yeah it is amazing. Amazingly half-assed research.
Where are all of the WMD components that the US sold to Saddam listed? And where is all of the WMD's that were sold after Gulf War I? What no listings?

So you are accusing other countries of selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq when the US was selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq? Yeah, I can see where that is just wrong of those countries.

Almost all (99%) WMD type stuff was destroyed in Gulf War I. Look it up.

So where is all the vast WMD stuff that Saddam was able to acquire after the first Gulf War? You know the immense quantity of WMD stuff that Butthead Bush stated was the initial reason for Gulf War II? Funny how it has never been found.

But that's alright, just keep believing in the nitwit you elected, no matter how many of his lies are exposed. He has been very profitable to me. His ability to lower the value of the US dollar is greatly appreciated.
1. The US never sold any WMD to Iraq.
2. 99% of Iraq's WMD were not destroyed during the first Gulf War. We intentionally did not destroy it during the war becuse it required special procedures during destruction to keep it out of the atmosphere.
3. Iraq never provided any proof that they destroyed much of their WMD after the war...that is why there were sanctions, and eventually a war.
4. There is a post on this BBS about finding hundreds of thousands of dollars in a bathroom wall. Apparently it had been hidden there since the 40's. The infamous Captain Kidd was hanged in 1701. His ship was finally found this month off the Dominican Republic. Treasure hunters had searched for it for almost 300 years. Many said it wasn't there. It was under just 10 feet of water. There are a lot of things such as this ship that were never even intentionally hidden...that cannot be found. Imagine how hard it would be to find something something intentionally hidden...using the incredible financial resources that Saddam had.
5. Keep being smug while your countrymen spend their ill-gotten blood-money they received from Saddam.

Hard-Deck 12-15-2007 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 3647807)
+1
Thank you both in return.

I'm proud to serve.

cool_chick 12-15-2007 05:36 PM
Happy HolyDays. Grow a sense of humor, prople.

Rearden 12-15-2007 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3647818)
Yeah it is amazing. Amazingly half-assed research.
Where are all of the WMD components that the US sold to Saddam listed? And where is all of the WMD's that were sold after Gulf War I? What no listings?

So you are accusing other countries of selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq when the US was selling possible WMD stuff to Iraq? Yeah, I can see where that is just wrong of those countries.

Almost all (99%) WMD type stuff was destroyed in Gulf War I. Look it up.

So where is all the vast WMD stuff that Saddam was able to acquire after the first Gulf War? You know the immense quantity of WMD stuff that Butthead Bush stated was the initial reason for Gulf War II? Funny how it has never been found.

But that's alright, just keep believing in the nitwit you elected, no matter how many of his lies are exposed. He has been very profitable to me. His ability to lower the value of the US dollar is greatly appreciated.

Do you people just make this stuff up?

RoninLB 12-15-2007 06:00 PM
this country needs more Freemasons.

RPKESQ 12-15-2007 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 3647855)
1. The US never sold any WMD to Iraq.
2. 99% of Iraq's WMD were not destroyed during the first Gulf War. We intentionally did not destroy it during the war becuse it required special procedures during destruction to keep it out of the atmosphere.
3. Iraq never provided any proof that they destroyed much of their WMD after the war...that is why there were sanctions, and eventually a war.
4. There is a post on this BBS about finding hundreds of thousands of dollars in a bathroom wall. Apparently it had been hidden there since the 40's. The infamous Captain Kidd was hanged in 1701. His ship was finally found this month off the Dominican Republic. Treasure hunters had searched for it for almost 300 years. Many said it wasn't there. It was under just 10 feet of water. There are a lot of things such as this ship that were never even intentionally hidden...that cannot be found. Imagine how hard it would be to find something something intentionally hidden...using the incredible financial resources that Saddam had.
5. Keep being smug while your countrymen spend their ill-gotten blood-money they received from Saddam.
What kind of drugs are you using to fuel your fantasies?
1) The US sold many different military and civilian things to Iraq that were or could be used for WMD. Chemicals from DOW, hardware from the US military, electronics and electrical controls from GE, etc. Look it up. Remember before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam was our bully boy in the ME (yes, “our”, I am an American citizen, so your silly comment about “ill-gotten blood-money they received from Saddam” is completely correct).
2) I have seen the target lists and bombing results. In person, in country. We released large amounts of toxic material into the atmosphere during Gulf War I. Read the reports and the VA results and investigations concerning our own poisoned soldiers.
3) They allowed weapons inspectors in for a long time. Most of our allies were satisfied that the inspections were accurate. That is why they did not support the war. And so far all of their pre-war warnings turned out to be true (no terrorist connection to speak of, no WMD’s, the Sunni/Shiite violence, the decrease in stability, etc.)
4) Interesting stories, but if you are still holding out for Bush’s lie to become truth, don’t hold your breath. The reality was we had Saddam bottled up with no fly zones over the majority of Iraq. Saddam was not religious, and we attacked the only secular country in the ME and destabilized it for years to come. Brilliant!
5) I am smug. I did not vote for Bush. And I was wise enough to have a backup plan if the nincompoop was elected. I voted again with my feet and moved my money and domicile to a country where religious “voices in their head” types are not put into power. It turned out my analysis of the situation was correct and I did profit handsomely from my actions. Did you? And I do enjoy seeing your sorry asses having to now pay for Bush’s fiasco. And your children will pay too.

Viva la France!SmileWavy

fintstone 12-15-2007 10:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3648254)
What kind of drugs are you using to fuel your fantasies?
1) The US sold many different military and civilian things to Iraq that were or could be used for WMD. Chemicals from DOW, hardware from the US military, electronics and electrical controls from GE, etc. Look it up. Remember before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam was our bully boy in the ME (yes, “our”, I am an American citizen, so your silly comment about “ill-gotten blood-money they received from Saddam” is completely correct).
2) I have seen the target lists and bombing results. In person, in country. We released large amounts of toxic material into the atmosphere during Gulf War I. Read the reports and the VA results and investigations concerning our own poisoned soldiers.
3) They allowed weapons inspectors in for a long time. Most of our allies were satisfied that the inspections were accurate. That is why they did not support the war. And so far all of their pre-war warnings turned out to be true (no terrorist connection to speak of, no WMD’s, the Sunni/Shiite violence, the decrease in stability, etc.)
4) Interesting stories, but if you are still holding out for Bush’s lie to become truth, don’t hold your breath. The reality was we had Saddam bottled up with no fly zones over the majority of Iraq. Saddam was not religious, and we attacked the only secular country in the ME and destabilized it for years to come. Brilliant!
5) I am smug. I did not vote for Bush. And I was wise enough to have a backup plan if the nincompoop was elected. I voted again with my feet and moved my money and domicile to a country where religious “voices in their head” types are not put into power. It turned out my analysis of the situation was correct and I did profit handsomely from my actions. Did you? And I do enjoy seeing your sorry asses having to now pay for Bush’s fiasco. And your children will pay too.

Viva la France!SmileWavy
1. Walmart sells stuff that could be made into WMD. That is not the same as selling WMD....so you have done nothing to show that your earlier post was not untrue.
2. Target lists and bombing results are top secret..forgive me if I don't believe that you have seen them. I have...of course, that was/is my business. As a rule, we do not bomb WMD sites.
3. Wepon Inspectors were not allowed to inspect anything except that which Saddam's regime allowed. This was well documented. that is why the UN and the US Congress supported action against Iraq. I have first hand knowledge. One of my employees (military) was an inspector...What is your source? Move-on.org?
4. Iraq was a brutal dictatorship and is now a fledgling democracy. Sounds like an improvement to me. Tough for you sissy french boys though.
5. Enjoy your life in France. If you were from the U.S....don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out...and please don't come back. Hopefully anyone else like you will follow. Lucky for you, ignorance is bliss. Keep your white flag ready...and hope real men will keep protecting you. As George Orwell put so brilliantly: "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

Joeaksa 12-16-2007 12:09 AM
There are absolutely no WMD hidden anywhere in the Middle East. Its just not possible! Everything that was hidden was found... and of course there is nothing buried in the desert...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197792428.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197792509.jpg

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/sandplanes.asp

We are still finding things that are hidden from WW2 but the liberals do not believe that there was any WMD there. Time will tell and most of us have no doubt who will be right in the end.

Rearden 12-16-2007 12:26 AM
Iraq-Iran war
 
Iraq's main financial backers during the Iraq-Iran war:
Saudi Arabia ($30.9 billion)
Kuwait ($8.2 billion)
United Arab Emirates ($8 billion)

Source: www.globalsecurity.org


US financial backing:
Some of the $5 billion in US and British agriculture credits were diverted to purchase military and dual-use supplies. Whatever the amount, it was a small portion of total financial support.

Iraq conventional weapons:
Iraq fought with Soviet weapons purchased in the preceding decade, with the exception of $200 million of US helicopters. These were the only direct U.S.-Iraqi military sales and were valued to be about 0.6% of Iraq's conventional weapons imports during the war.

Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute


Iraq chemical weapons:
According to Iraq's December 2002 weapons declaration to the United Nations, the top providers of chemical weapons precursors were:

Singapore* (4,515 tons)
Netherlands (4,261 tons)
Egypt (2,400 tons)
India (2,343 tons)
Federal Republic of Germany (1,027 tons)

* company affiliated with the UAE

Source: United Nations

livi 12-16-2007 04:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cool_chick (Post 3647864)
Happy HolyDays. Grow a sense of humor, prople.
+1.

Why do some of you have to get all defensive and take it so bloody seriously ? It was a funny video. No more, no less. :)

KFC911 12-16-2007 05:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by livi (Post 3648427)
+1.

Why do some of you have to get all defensive and take it so bloody seriously ? It was a funny video. No more, no less. :)
If Haliburton had received a no-bid contract for Saddam's "arsenal", we could have bankrupted him in a few months..

mike f 12-17-2007 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3648254)
5) I am smug. I did not vote for Bush. And I was wise enough to have a backup plan if the nincompoop was elected. I voted again with my feet and moved my money and domicile to a country where religious “voices in their head” types are not put into power. It turned out my analysis of the situation was correct and I did profit handsomely from my actions. Did you? And I do enjoy seeing your sorry asses having to now pay for Bush’s fiasco. And your children will pay too.

Viva la France!SmileWavy
How very patriotic of you. I hope you at least had the stones to give up your US citizenship. Stay in France. We don't need you here.

Superman 12-18-2007 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by island911 (Post 3647267)
Ah, the art of dismissiveness...

Sammy is spot on, as usual. It sure looks like fun for the Bush-bashers to paint Saddam as a bumbling fool. ...pretend that Saddams quest for power and Saddams need to provoke the US were all just a big misunderstanding. :rolleyes:
Paint Saddam as a bumbling fool? Nope.

Pretend that Saddam's question for power is a misunderstanding? Nope.

Pretend that Saddam's need to provoke the US was a misunderstanding? Nope.

These beliefs are not necessary to doubt the presence of WMD. Nor are they evidence of the existence of WMD. They are..........deflections.

Saddam was easy to defeat. Twice. The real problem in the Middle East was not Saddam. The one thing Dubya should have noticed about Saddam's regime, but did not, is that Saddam maintained a country that was religiously STERILIZED. There was no way he was going to tolerate any level of control being exerted by religious fanatics. Dubya opened the flood gates for that. For money and fame. Using WMD as an excuse. He was duped. And then he blamed it on his advisors. What a leader.........

Wake me up if you guys come up with something, anything other than a guess, that will make me suspect there were WMD. At this point, you guys have nothing but guesses. And some evidence that COMPONENTS for
WMD were sold to Iraq before Gulf War I. Wake me up when you think you have something.

Joeaksa 12-18-2007 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike f (Post 3652275)
How very patriotic of you. I hope you at least had the stones to give up your US citizenship. Stay in France. We don't need you here.
Hope he took some of the liberals with him as he was running away!

We all remember the ones who were going to move out of the country if Gore was not elected?

kach22i 12-18-2007 10:09 AM
Funny stuff, even funnier are the GWB apologist.

Saddams never delivered yacht...............now for sale.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/17/wsaddam117.xml

Interior pictures:
http://www.burgessyachts.com/SaleAndPurchase/YachtSpecs.asp?thisID=4100&YachtType=Motor&YachtNa me=OCEANBREEZE

Dottore 12-18-2007 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3648254)
5) I am smug. I did not vote for Bush. And I was wise enough to have a backup plan if the nincompoop was elected. I voted again with my feet and moved my money and domicile to a country where religious “voices in their head” types are not put into power. It turned out my analysis of the situation was correct and I did profit handsomely from my actions. Did you? And I do enjoy seeing your sorry asses having to now pay for Bush’s fiasco. And your children will pay too.

Viva la France!SmileWavy

Not a bad back-up plan!

You will be eating a lot better, that's for sure. And certainly you will be drinking better.

You'll have full access to one of the best health-care systems on the planet.

You'll have an open and serious media in which real issues are actually debated by intelligent people.

You'll live in a land where a no-talent frat boy will never be elected president, and where major foreign policy decisions are not made by a guy in consultation with "his God".

You'll live in a land that has a judicial system that is relatively swift and fair and accessible , and a penal system that rehabilitates, rather than just incarcerates.

You'll live in a land with an education system that doesn't graduate generation after generation of functional illiterates.

You'll live in a land that has learned from it's past mistakes, and no longer engages in unilateral military adventurism abroad.

Oh yes, you'll be dressing a lot better too...and then of course there are French women. Mon Dieu! And you have the best driving roads in all of Christendom!

That's one hell of a back up plan!

I'm sure I missed a few things. But maybe Mule can help me out with the rest.

ErVikingo 12-18-2007 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 3648254)
And I do enjoy seeing your sorry asses having to now pay for Bush’s fiasco. And your children will pay too.
Not going into WMD's nor anything else "discussed" on this thread, this has got to be the most egotistical thing I've read in my years here. Wow.

Whilst we might disagree in our views on other subjects, I wish you and everyone else a long and happy life no matter who you vote for or wherever you might live.

Tobra 12-18-2007 01:18 PM
Why do you guys care what a few foreign trolls have to "contribute" to the discussion? They are both full of crap, if you have read pretty much anything they have said, frenchy #1 is an American citizen one minute, and lording it over the stupid Americans who will have to pay for it all the next.

Besides, everyone knows that California wines are superior to French wines in practically every way, French women tend to be hairy and dirty, the food is average the tobacco and automobiles below average and they are just about to be taken over by the adherents of the religion of peace.

RANDY P 12-18-2007 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3653318)
and they are just about to be taken over by the adherents of the religion of peace.
Invaded again... This time, they can call the UN. We're not good enough.

rjp

Dottore 12-18-2007 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3653318)
Why do you guys care what a few foreign trolls have to "contribute" to the discussion? They are both full of crap, if you have read pretty much anything they have said, frenchy #1 is an American citizen one minute, and lording it over the stupid Americans who will have to pay for it all the next.

Besides, everyone knows that California wines are superior to French wines in practically every way, French women tend to be hairy and dirty, the food is average the tobacco and automobiles below average and they are just about to be taken over by the adherents of the religion of peace.
Actually, I was attempting to balance the discussion just a little bit.

As for your last paragraph - France is a pretty nice gig. Trust me on this.

Eric Coffey 12-18-2007 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3653318)
Why do you guys care what a few foreign trolls have to "contribute" to the discussion? They are both full of crap, if you have read pretty much anything they have said, frenchy #1 is an American citizen one minute, and lording it over the stupid Americans who will have to pay for it all the next.

Besides, everyone knows that California wines are superior to French wines in practically every way, French women tend to be hairy and dirty, the food is average the tobacco and automobiles below average and they are just about to be taken over by the adherents of the religion of peace.
Exactly. Oh, and "full access to one of the best health-care systems on the planet."
Uh, socialized healthcare isn't all it's cracked up to be, and worse in the specialized fields (oncology, etc.). Trust me on this.


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