Random Shooting - How to Survive?

[Porsche_monkey]

As a result of some specific death threats at my sons high school, I am looking for survival strategies for random shootings. Think Coumbine and the like.

Aside from staying home until this is resolved, what advice would you offer your son/daughter? (I have considered and ruled out both carrying a piece and wearing a bullet-proof vest).

[legion]

It's a crap shoot.

If you are in the room where the gunman opens up, carrying or not, wearing a bullet-proof-vest or not, you probably will not have time to react.

People in other rooms would have opportunity to hide.

[dhoward]

Catch flying bullets in teeth. Spit back at assailant.

[Neilk]

Are these threats directed at your family specifically or the entire school?

What's going on? You're in Canada!!!

[The Gaijin]

Unless he is dealing dope and has competition from Caribean gangs - much better advise is to not drink and drive and stay away from those who do. Same for driving while tired. School shootings get all the press - but that is not where kids are dying..

[Kirk911SC]

Paul,

Is this at O.T.??

My wife heard something about this.

Edit: Found this:

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/285564

[911Rob]

Bye, Bye school.

Put your kids in private school.

[legion]

These types of threats have become very popular recently in Central Illinois. Whole school gets shut down SWAT team called in, kids go home.

The first incident was a girl that didn't want to take a test.

Another was a juvenile delinquent that just wanted to cause trouble for the school.

In none of the local cases, has anyone even been remotely serious about carrying out such an attack.

[Aurel]

Some kid wanted early vacations for all maybe? Seriously, when I was in high school, there were bomb threats sometimes. Now, those are shooting threats. 95% of the time, threats are just what they are. If someone was really decided in doing a carnage, why would they warn everyone before?

Aurel

[rammstein]

I clearly remember us being ushered out of the school for a bomb threat when I was in 4th grade.

We were told it was a bomb threat, and we would be not returning to class until the school had been checked (which would take a couple of hours).

All the kids cheered.

I agree with Aurel- I don't think true bombers or shooters phone in threats before committing the crimes BUT... if they get such threats, they really don't have much choice but to let the kids out.

Hopefully its a nice day and the kids can play football or something while they're out. We played football while we waited.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by 911Rob

Bye, Bye school.

Put your kids in private school.

Because a shooting could never happen at a private school, eh? At my prep school we had a skeet range and a shed full of shotguns. The campus was big enough that they'd have needed more than one helicopter to find a determined gunman. We also had zero school security in those days and even now that school has nothing compared to most public schools in the ways of security.

[911Rob]

IMHO, yup!

My wife is at the kids school right now, volunteering for a Christmas function.
We know every kid that our kids hang with; actually, every kid in their classes.
We know every parent that our kids hang with; EVERYONE!

Chances of someone even getting threatend in our school is nil, yet alone shot at.
It's all part of a lifestyle choice my friend.
No excuses.

www.kingschristianschool.com

[varmint]

From USA Today of December 17, 2007
Minn. man shoots cops after SWAT team kicks down wrong door

A Minneapolis police SWAT team kicked in the wrong door yesterday during an early morning raid, prompting the man of the house to grab his gun and open fire on the officers who entered the house.

"He took out his shotgun and he said if they are bad guys I'll shoot, I'll scare them away," Dao Khang, the brother of the homeowner, Vang Khang, tells the Star Tribune. "He fired first, he told me it was two shots."

Dao Khang says his brother was trying to protect his wife and six children. No one from the family was hit during the exchange of gunfire. Vang hit two officers, but the Pioneer Press says they were protected by ballistic vests and helmets.

"I must've heard over 20 or 30 shots, I swear, it was scary," Ruth Hayes, the family's next-door neighbor, tells WCCO-TV. "It was like 30 SWAT guys out here ... it was crazy it was just like havoc."

KARE-TV reports that Vang was detained at the scene and released a few hours later. Police say there may have been a "language barrier" between the residents and the officers.

"It was some bad information that was received on the front end that kind-of trickled all the way through," police Sgt. Jesse Garcia tells the station. "It's unfortunate because we have officers that were hit by gunfire and this truly, truly could have been a much worse situation."

Police haven't decided whether they'll try to charge Khang with a crime. KMSP-TV says the Khang family is consulting with a civil attorney.



thought i'd throw this in. an interesting variation on the home invasion/castle debate. i think the guy was entirely within his rights.

[Moses]

Originally Posted by varmint

Police haven't decided whether they'll try to charge Khang with a crime.

A crime? Protecting his family from an armed assault? Are you kidding me? Every cop who participated should be charged with breaking and entering and assault with a deadly weapon. They should ALL do prison time. NO, I'm not kidding. Only one way to deal with thugs.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Moses

A crime? Protecting his family from an armed assault? Are you kidding me? Every cop who participated should be charged with breaking and entering and assault with a deadly weapon. They should ALL do prison time. NO, I'm not kidding. Only one way to deal with thugs.

I agree. But I suspect it will come down to whether it was a no-knock warrant or how quickly the cops identified themselves. I don't know why jackbooted thugs expect to be treated like uniformed policemen by homeowners awoken in the night. I'd notice the ski masks and tactical gear way before I saw a badge and react accordingly. Lucky for the homeowner that he didn't end up full of holes.

[Rikao4]

Lucky, they cannot hit *****.
Almost shot each other, then blame the home-owner.
Rika

[Flatbutt1]

Both of my children are teachers. At the first sign of such trouble their plan is to either get the kids out of a ground floor window or up to the roof.

[Rikao4]

Wrong address, WTF
Call a Cabbie..follow him.
Rika

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Because a shooting could never happen at a private school, eh?...

My thoughts exactly.

[nostatic]

easy: preemptive strike