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tabs 12-27-2007 10:10 PM

This is Radio Tabs
 
Watching GW Bush on TV today talk about the assassination of Bhutto left me with the impression of a man at the end of his rope. That he has had enough, that he is on the verge of a nervous breakdown. That he is under tremendous pressure and everything just seems to be falling apart no matter what he does.

There is a real problem in America. There is a disconnect with reality. The news media reports disastrous things happening in the world, then it cuts to a commercial for SUV's, telling you about how luxurious they are. American lives are just not touched by the terrible things happening in the world around them. They have fallen asleep and are oblivious to that reality, that is the disconnect with reality.

Watching FOX I got the impression that they are highlighting the chaos and playing on the fear of a world gone mad. Some of th commentators have suggested that we put more pressure on Musharraf to push of Democracy. How unreal is that? Musharraf has a tiger by the tail and is fighting to keep Pakistan from disintegrating.


Watching CNN, they play up the martyrdom of Bhutto as a great democracy loving freedom fighting individual. Their approach is abit calmer. They also tend to blame Musharraf as being a dictator in league with radical islamists, without realizing the enormous pressures on him to maintain some sort of stability in his country.

trekkor 12-27-2007 10:51 PM

Every world leader will fail you...


KT

tabs 12-27-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3669167)
Every world leader will fail you...


KT

Everyman has limitations. The Presidency killed FDR, it just took 13 years, a world war and depression to do it.

GW just has the look of a man at the breaking point. Like all the wind is out of his sails. Maybe it was just the shock of having someone he had pinned hope upon being killed. We shall see.

trekkor 12-27-2007 11:15 PM

"Do not put your trust in nobles, in which there is no salvation."




KT

tabs 12-27-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3669176)
"Do not put your trust in nobles, in which there is no salvation."




KT

GW reminds me of a an old Captain of mine by the name of Queeg.

Joeaksa 12-27-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3669149)
Watching GW Bush on TV today talk about the assassination of Bhutto left me with the impression of a man at the end of his rope. That he has had enough, that he is on the verge of a nervous breakdown. That he is under tremendous pressure and everything just seems to be falling apart no matter what he does.

How unreal is that? Musharraf has a tiger by the tail and is fighting to keep Pakistan from disintegrating.


Watching CNN, they play up the martyrdom of Bhutto as a great democracy loving freedom fighting individual. Their approach is abit calmer. They also tend to blame Musharraf as being a dictator in league with radical islamists, without realizing the enormous pressures on him to maintain some sort of stability in his country.

Part of your problem is watching CNN. Over here in Europe its a greatly different prospect. I turn on BBC and hear one thing, Sky and its close but the liberal idiots at CNN are trying to flavour the news to fit their perception of reality. Stop watching CNN or mix it with data from other outlets that are not biased like CNN is!

Regarding President Bush, anyone might look badly had they received some difficult intel when this happened. Musharraf and his minions very well might be the tiger that is tearing everything apart over there. A few weeks/months will tell a lot...

tabs 12-27-2007 11:28 PM

I'll bet the lights are burning late into the night in New Delhi, Beijing as well as Washington.

trekkor 12-27-2007 11:34 PM

You are missing the BIG PICTURE.



KT

tabs 12-27-2007 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3669183)

Musharraf and his minions very well might be the tiger that is tearing everything apart over there..

Regarding the 2 atempts on Musharraf's life, they found that it was a group of junior grade army officers that were involved.

tabs 12-27-2007 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3669186)
You are missing the BIG PICTURE.



KT

Oh so U are saying that ole GW has put his faith in Musharraf and Bhutto to help rectify a situation that isn't salvageable. Or the old saying if you want something done right you have to do it yourself, cause ya can't count on others.

trekkor 12-27-2007 11:56 PM

Niether...



KT

tabs 12-27-2007 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3669194)
Niether...



KT

Well I have given it my best shot..spell it out???

tabs 12-28-2007 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 3669208)
There's a lot of terrible things going on in the world these days, and the news media is constantly there to remind all of us of all of them. When should people be touched? No big surprise here - people in Pakistan have been killing each other over political issues for years...

-Wayne


When its too late and they come here and blow up buildings by crashing airplanes into them. Thats when we finally get the message, at least until the next commercial diverts our attention back to the rich Corthian Leather that the latest model SUV has. My point is that Americans view the happenings in the world as a soap opera that is happening to somebody else, some place over the horizon. However in todays Global Economy and era of ever increasing WMDs the risk of something bad happening to America has been raised exponently.

CurtEgerer 12-28-2007 03:31 AM

This hasn't been widely reported, but faux carbon fiber cabin trim is available on the Hummer H2 this year.

Chocaholic 12-28-2007 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3669149)

There is a real problem in America. There is a disconnect with reality. The news media reports disastrous things happening in the world, then it cuts to a commercial for SUV's, telling you about how luxurious they are. American lives are just not touched by the terrible things happening in the world around them. They have fallen asleep and are oblivious to that reality, that is the disconnect with reality.

Tabs...there is no "disconnect" with reallity. There is a "different" reality when comparing life in America to life in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Russia, etc. Just because we're not immersed in the insanity doesn't mean we have no stake in the game. Who is more invested in the ME than we are? No, there's no disconnect at all, and given the choice, I prefer to live the American reality. Thank you very much.

Now...where is my latte???

The Gaijin 12-28-2007 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3669190)
Regarding the 2 atempts on Musharraf's life, they found that it was a group of junior grade army officers that were involved.

Isn't that how he came to power? Seems to be the usual route..

Moneyguy1 12-28-2007 07:04 AM

No, tabs...

trek is pointing out in his inimitable way thet civilization is doomed unless it turns to God for true leadership.

Am I right, trek?

porsche4life 12-28-2007 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3669183)
Stop watching CNN or mix it with data from other outlets that are not biased like CNN is!

Because good ole fox is so non biased...

kach22i 12-28-2007 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3669172)
GW just has the look of a man at the breaking point.

Maybe he just had his 20th unreported stroke and mini heart attack.

A good rewiring should fix all that.:cool:

Our robot president, we shall follow him to the end.

baldman 12-28-2007 07:54 AM

CNN and the other news networks constantly broadcast reports talking about how we had no right to ever go into Iraq no matter the situation and we need to pull out now.
Then yesterday they were broadcasting reports asking why the US didn't do more to protect Bhutto.

Remember: if it bleeds it leads. The news - no matter the channel - is all about ratings, not about informing.

SLO-BOB 12-28-2007 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3669149)
There is a real problem in America.

Gee, which snarky remark does one make to this statement? Too.....many.....hurts.....head......but, here goes -

Yeah, but his term is up on 08.

I thought she was killed in Pakistan?

Nothing 550 Billion dollars won't cure.

What are you talking about? Our H2s have faux carbon fiber trim which is awesome!

You think it's bad now, wait until 08.

".........................................." Hillary (Obama, Edwards, Guillianni, Huckabee, Romney, etc.) takes over

You don't like it here? Go live in France commie!

Pakistan has McDonalds too.


Throw your TV out the window. You'll live longer not watching the fear mongers. That's entertainment folks! Why do you think they have commercials between the bad news.

t951 12-28-2007 08:17 AM

100% Agree
 
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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3669210)
When its too late and they come here and blow up buildings by crashing airplanes into them. Thats when we finally get the message, at least until the next commercial diverts our attention back to the rich Corthian Leather that the latest model SUV has. My point is that Americans view the happenings in the world as a soap opera that is happening to somebody else, some place over the horizon. However in todays Global Economy and era of ever increasing WMDs the risk of something bad happening to America has been raised exponently.

Could not agree more....

They are viewed as extras in a movie. It's like we are watching Planet of the Apes. We see them as these unintelligent, violent morons that are determined to destroy themselves. Then we have an ad for the NEW, LARGER, whatever.

We, the minority, who watch multiple news outlets, and are not lead like sheep, are not as dismissive. But it really doesnt matter. The huge percentage of our country is disconnected.

DARISC 12-28-2007 08:27 AM

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There is a real problem in America.

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Originally Posted by SLO-BOB (Post 3669618)
Gee, which snarky remark does one make to this statement? Too.....many.....hurts.....head......but, here goes -

Yeah, but his term is up on 08.

I thought she was killed in Pakistan?

Nothing 550 Billion dollars won't cure.

What are you talking about? Our H2s have faux carbon fiber trim which is awesome!

You think it's bad now, wait until 08.

".........................................." Hillary (Obama, Edwards, Guillianni, Huckabee, Romney, etc.) takes over

You don't like it here? Go live in France commie!

Pakistan has McDonalds too.

Throw your TV out the window. You'll live longer not watching the fear mongers. That's entertainment folks! Why do you think they have commercials between the bad news.

Great post. I also liked this one of yours from a ways back:

"If by "mission accomplished" you mean....

<HR style="COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->1- Invading a country on a false premise. check

2 - Making life actually worse for Iraqis. check

3 - Making the U.S. a more hated target for more terrorists.
check

4 - Entering a war (against your Dad's approval) w/o an exit
strategy. check

5 - And my personal favorite - removing from power the one guy
who hated Iran more than we do thus allowing a more
fearsome enemy to expand it's influence. Iran is buddying up
to Iraq with money and support. What next?

Nice work.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/rolleyes.gif"
<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

trekkor 12-28-2007 08:31 AM

Bob knows things...



KT

scottmandue 12-28-2007 08:36 AM

and my dog's breath still smells like dog food!














the beat goes on...

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futuresoptions 12-28-2007 08:41 AM

You cannot destroy or kill ideology. You can however, drive it underground until it becomes more and more elusive.... We send our young men and women to hostile zones in order to defend a way of life in this country that we do not even defend at home against our politicians and special interests groups... Arguing against one another on this forum is entertaining none the less, but in reality it is nothing more than a reflection of the modern American's powerlessness and inaptness to control their future....

KaptKaos 12-28-2007 09:06 AM

We learned a lot of hard lessons in the 20th century. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and other smaller conflicts. We learned that isolation doesn't work. That eventually, the problems in those other places land on our door. Whether its via attacks on boats, military targets, planes into buildings, the spread of a regime, oil prices, the global economy or the proliferation of WMD.

A proactive foreign policy is a must. It's a must because we are the richest country, and that makes us an easy scapegoat for despots and dictators around the world. It's short-sighted for sure, but its a means to an end for those that seek power.

Regardless of administration, I don't think that you will see this policy change much in our lifetimes. Proactive intervention is here to stay, and it only applies when there is security or financial interests. So don't expect much for Dafur.

tabs 12-28-2007 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 3669237)
Tabs...there is no "disconnect" with reallity. There is a "different" reality when comparing life in America to life in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Russia, etc. Just because we're not immersed in the insanity doesn't mean we have no stake in the game. Who is more invested in the ME than we are? No, there's no disconnect at all, and given the choice, I prefer to live the American reality. Thank you very much.

Now...where is my latte???

The reality in the world is that it is a dangerous place, but you could never tell that from watching American TV, after all the gore they cut to the commercial as if nothing bad is happening. The line between reality and fiction has become blurred.

Rick Lee 12-28-2007 05:24 PM

I can't remember the last time I watched a tv show that had commercials I bothered to watch. I haven't watched network tv in years.


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