Heroin killed someone I knew :(

[deathpunk dan]

My best friend's ex girlfriend died in a treatment center the other day. She was 30 years old.

They'd been broken up for 4 years, but he saw her around once in awhile. She'd been clean, then back on it, then clean, well...you know how it goes. Burned through friends and family. God knows my friend couldn't deal with it any longer and that's why they split up.

What a waste. She was beautiful -quite possibly the most gorgeous woman I'd ever met- smart, had impeccable taste and style...but had some serious demons that I guess she could never get over.

I hadn't seen her since 2003, but I think I should go to the wake.

Heroin must be something awful to get involved with. I'm really really tired of people getting into it. I just know the wake will be full of these people that, if not junkies themselves, are the fast crowd that needs to be shocked the hell awake to realize that their little cool world is all a lie.

[12own911]

Sorry to read about your loss... God Speed to her and all the others that get involved with H or Meth...

[scottmandue]

So sad... I lost a friend this year to cocaine... he was 46, smart (software engineer), good looking (could and did have just about any women he wanted... made me jealous as he11) and except for the drugs and drinking seemed healthy.

Turned out he was drinking and doing coke 24/7... as you say he obviously had some demons to deal with... and didn't.

Finally his liver and kidney just stopped working (not a pretty way to go).

I'm ashamed to admit I used to snort coke with him back in the day.

[pwd72s]

I think many of us personally know people who have died because of drugs...
Meth is taking over from heroin in the number of tragic deaths. Yet, it seems we never learn...

(edit) These deaths seem even more senseless in light of our friend Warren fighting for his life...

[bt1211]

One of my brothers is a functioning heroin addict. He goes to work but all of his money goes to the drug-man.

Its been like that for over 25yrs. There is nothing you can do or say. I'm just waiting to get "that" call.

He "was" very good looking and resourceful. I few years back another brother and I went to see him in rehab(I had not seen him for a few years) and if I would have passed him on the street, I would have NOT been able to recognize my own brother.

I hate to use a trite phrase but ....it is, what it is.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

(edit) These deaths seem even more senseless in light of our friend Warren fighting for his life...

Indeed...

Human beings are a strange kettle of fish...

Some of us are fighting to survive while some are slowly poisoning themselves to death.

Anyone who pretends to fully understand the human Psyche is doing just that... pretending.

[SlowToady]

I'm sorry for your loss. You said you hadn't seen her in awhile, but, nonetheless, it's not easy to loose someone you know.

I suppose it's slightly ironic that you posted this. The other week, maybe a month ago, a friend of mine from High School over dosed on Heroine and nearly died. The only reason he didn't, is because another one of our friends saved his life --and I mean that in the most literal sense. The kid shot up, over dosed immediately, and stopped breathing. Our other friend gave him CPR for 13 straight minutes until the Paramedics arrived, and that's what saved him.

35 on the ACT, accepted to Princeton, Harvard and so on, impeccable grades, good looking, and fun to be around. I never thought he'd ever be near a needle.

I see a lot of people I know jumping into drug use and abuse, and yet no one will listen. After all, they know what they are doing.

Apologies for the tangent. I'm sorry for your loss. You should go to the wake.

[speeder]

Sad to hear it. I've lost numerous friends and acquaintances to drugs and/or alcoholism, sometimes directly and sometimes indirectly. But always that was the cause, no doubt about it.

People who are not addicts or do not have that addictive personality gene will never understand how someone can continue with such self-destructive behavior. It truly defies intelligence; people can be brilliant and destroy themselves, or others can be very bright but not understand it if it does not affect them personally. "Why don't they just quit?", or tell a story of someone they knew who just "grabbed the bull by the horns" and stopped using on their own, etc...

I lost a beautiful, young woman friend to H just over a year ago, professional working model in the big city, nice person, etc... Her parents back in VA. have been paying her cell phone bill all of this time just so that they can hear her voice(?), I still have her in my phone and can call and hear her laugh during her outgoing message. So damn sad. Last conversation I had w/ her, she told me how after a year clean & sober she had had enough of that stuff and was back to using drugs. I told her to be careful, (knowing she was a junkie), that she could die. It did not register. (No pun intended). She was going to sell me her old Mustang convertible that was covered in dust in the garage.

It sucks.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

So sad... I lost a friend this year to cocaine... he was 46, smart (software engineer), good looking (could and did have just about any women he wanted... made me jealous as he11) and except for the drugs and drinking seemed healthy.

Turned out he was drinking and doing coke 24/7... as you say he obviously had some demons to deal with... and didn't.

Finally his liver and kidney just stopped working (not a pretty way to go).

I'm ashamed to admit I used to snort coke with him back in the day.

Much the same here...

Had a very good friend who was using H and he warned all of his friends to never try it, that it was very addictive from the get go. Lost touch with him and afraid he is gone now...

They do not call them drugs for nothing. They can be very addictive and with meth or H sometimes it takes only one or two tries to become an addict.

[legion]

Sorry for your loss. I'm glad I hate needles.

I smoked opium once in college. (Heroin is an opiate.) Gave me the most relaxing, mellow high I've ever had that lasted all night. I felt like a retard the next day. I could feel that my brain was working slow. I'm normally quick-witted, but that day I kept thinking: "I should know this"....I don't ever want to feel like that again. I can't even imagine the "concentrated version" (heroin).

Originally Posted by deathpunk dan

I just know the wake will be full of these people that, if not junkies themselves, are the fast crowd that needs to be shocked the hell awake to realize that their little cool world is all a lie.

Prepare to be surprised how few junkie friends actually show up. Some will be high and forget. Some won't want to face the reality. Some have lives that are such a mess something will prevent them from coming.

Some may show up high. Some may make a scene. They will probably just keep to themselves in some corner. You may here excuses like: "I told her not to buy smack from Stoney" or "I told her never to inject between her toes..."

[jim72911t]

I'm sorry for your loss, Dan.

I lost a friend 10 years ago to heroin. (RIP, Mark) On the bright side, I've got two other friends who have since cleaned up after heroin addiction, one in particular who has been clean for seven years.

Terrible drug. It's sad that most of the people I've known who have gotten in trouble with heroin have been musicians.

Jim

[futuresoptions]

Sad Loss as they all are.....Sorry to hear about your friend.....you would hope that senseless deaths as these would help prevent others from getting involved with that type of life style...

[rouxroux]

Originally Posted by deathpunk dan

I just know the wake will be full of these people that, if not junkies themselves, are the fast crowd that needs to be shocked the hell awake to realize that their little cool world is all a lie.

A perfect statement. If your life needs artificial stimulii for happiness, I'm truly sorry for you.

[Craig 930 RS]

21 years ago I worked with a gal used "meth"........pretty unknown then.
Hadn't slept for 3 days, warned me to never try it.............

[Nathans_Dad]

Wow, this is wierd. I just lost a patient in the hospital down here who was 30 a couple days ago, died after a heroin OD. I was thinking about posting a thread about it because of how sad the situation was, but then saw this one...

[charleskieffner]

my son is in prison for 3.6 years because of that SH!!. final chapter of drug abuse. rehab(he had been there), prison or death. real short story with the same old ******* ENDING! dont know where the hell i went wrong as a father...............kills me and his brother every day.

hopefully when he gets out he will see the light and stay clean. to the day i die i will wonder every day if he has managed to stay clean.

we aint white trailer trash............rural high buck community. its everywhere now.



before i get on pelican everyday i check his updated status with az dept of corrections. fun stuff. live with that crap everyday. now you know why im ******* NUTS!

[DanielDudley]

It always was everywhere. And I know how hard it is to tell someone that you will not watch them die, or give them a dime to help them do it. But that is the only thing to do. Most addicts will not change until all other options fail. And they will take it up again in a heartbeat rather than face whatever is eating them emotionally. Of course we want to help them, and give them all another chance, but an inch is all they need.

You can't give it to them, even if it goes against what you think, feel or were taught. And even if that is counter intuitive for you, they will intuitively know how to manipulate you, your emotions, or any situation. You can feel for them, you just can't act on it.

[frogger]

I lost a nephew to heroin. He was only in his mid-twenties and had so much life ahead of him. What a waste.

[charleskieffner]

you know this is a typical NIMBY gig. never did i think twice about junkies dying unless some talented musician. never gave a rats ass about the cartels and their crap. it was always someone else.

when it enters your life as it did with my son it scared me silly. read up on all facts. read up on all treatment,read up on bleak recidivism numbers. scares me even more.

the way it works is POS messikan illegal criminals come to az with handfull of dope. go to high schools just as you and i have job 8-5pm. deal dope to rich school kids. make enough bucks to have nest egg here in u.s. one POS illegal messikan had over 500 phone numbers of kids from every high buck high school in valley when busted. my kid hung out with wrong group and this is the result.

i have a personnal vendetta against the cartels. how i nail them against the cross will be determined. on the legal side should i get drawn on jury duty i will crucify them no matter what. on the illegal side if i am diagnosed with terminal disease..........i will go on a sniper spree in mexico killing every drug dealing bastard cartel member i can literally set my range finder and sights on.

booze/dope addiction............last three chapters of the book.........

1)rehab

2) prison

3) death

i chose number 2! he's still alive today. tommorow is a whole 'nuther ball game for the rest of my life!

no matter what i do, no matter where i go, no matter how much fun im having, no matter how much money i make, it is always forefront on my mind.

been down this substance abuse highway now twice in life with family members.................................


NEVER ******* AGAIN!

how i have managed to keep my sanity is beyond me.

[stomachmonkey]

Sorry for your lose.

I've been there.

Young, stupid, plenty of disposable income and a feeling of immortality is not always a good combo.