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cgarr 12-31-2007 03:45 PM

Winter flying is fun, sort of
 
Had to go up one more time this year, half hour at 30 degrees is about enough.. And yes that is a real rabbit on my head

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...nterflying.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...terflying2.jpg

p911dad 12-31-2007 03:53 PM

Do you prop it by yourself? Cool photos.

cgarr 12-31-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmeteer (Post 3675544)
Do you prop it by yourself? Cool photos.

No, I have full 12V system on it and some heat, yea I know, I'm a pussy;)

Flatbutt1 12-31-2007 04:25 PM

heat? in an open cockpit? I'm betting it was real chilly.

Porsche-O-Phile 12-31-2007 04:27 PM

Better climb performance, but that looks awfully cold.

Kudos to you for toughing it out!

MT930 12-31-2007 04:56 PM

That is the ultimate in flight. Very cool!

Hard-Deck 12-31-2007 05:45 PM

That's awesome man.

I've flown various GA aircraft but the best I've come close to in cool factor to yours is an Aeronica Champ.
I flew F/A-18s for 10 years and they're a hoot...but still not nearly as cool as your plane.

Did you build her yourself or is it a restored original?

cgarr 12-31-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapper33 (Post 3675699)
Did you build her yourself or is it a restored original?

Its an 85% which I built myself and first flew back in 1989, took about 6 years to build. I have about 500 hrs in it myself, that explains the hair loss I guess..

Joeaksa 12-31-2007 08:13 PM

Looks great and thats real flying.

We are flying today but its no where near as fun as what you fly, but we do have a full coverage windshield in front and heat and a flight attendent in back!

Fly safe!

Joe

Jeff Alton 12-31-2007 08:26 PM

Joe, off topic a wee bit, but do you have Universal in the jet? Or other??? I had a pilot pooch an FMS arrival yesterday, claimed an error in the Universal database, the right folks were not home there at their Tuscon office today for me to verify......

Cheers

BlueSideUp 12-31-2007 08:29 PM

I was talking with my wife's grandfather recently about icing. He is retired USMC and flew open cockpit airplanes before WWII. There I was telling him about how the winglets and windshield iced up on an approach into Lincoln.

He tops that by telling me about icing up his helmet and goggles. Other than typing 100 words per minute into the FMS I don't work nearly that hard!

I think Joe has a Collins like we do. We had Universals in the Brasilia a long time ago but they were replaced by a newer setup years ago.

Jeff Alton 12-31-2007 08:40 PM

Hmmm, icing in an open cockpit, now that puts hair on a guys chest......

This was a LJ60 and the folks at Universal were nice and friendly, but I will find out Wednesday.....

We had tons of trouble with Jepp, nearly sewered a multi million dollar airspace project, but never any issue with these guys. I still think the pilot might be pulling my leg a little, but we will see!

Happy new year!

Cheers

Normy 12-31-2007 08:56 PM

That looks like some cold flying-

Bundle up warm!

So what are those Lycoming valve covers doing poking out of the sides of that cowling?

N!

Joeaksa 12-31-2007 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 3675891)
Joe, off topic a wee bit, but do you have Universal in the jet? Or other??? I had a pilot pooch an FMS arrival yesterday, claimed an error in the Universal database, the right folks were not home there at their Tuscon office today for me to verify......

Cheers

Jeff,

Our jet uses Collins ProLine 21, so no Universal on this one.

I have an old friend working at Collins but he is on vacation right now. If no luck from Tucson pls let me know.

I know that there are some approaches that are not correct in certain FMS boxes. The paper or electronic Jepps box takes precidence.

Joe

Jeff Alton 12-31-2007 09:47 PM

Thanks Joe, we had fun with Collins, Honeywell and Jepp in the spring, nearly casued me health problems.........

The strange thing is that I don't have the different databases available to compare to. We publish the info, and I sign off on that, but I can't get access to the different database suppliers product to quickly check when a deviation occurs. Guess I am going to be putting a paper together to justify why I need this info every pub cycle........

Cheers

Joeaksa 01-01-2008 08:07 AM

Jeff,

I can look on Jeppesen JeppView and see what their chart says if that would help.

Let me know...

Joe

Jeff Alton 01-01-2008 08:39 AM

Craig, what engine does the aircraft have?

Cheers

cgarr 01-01-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 3676406)
Craig, what engine does the aircraft have?

Cheers

Its a Continental (C-85) converted to an O-200

450knotOffice 01-01-2008 09:11 AM

Jeff, I've got dual Universal FMS's and have flown with them for six years and 4000+ hours. Our 200+ Embraer RJ fleet all have them and I've never heard of a problem with ANY procedure in our database...ever. It's possible that what the guy in the Lear was telling you (between the lines) was that his database was expired. We update ours every two weeks.

Craig, incredible pics. It reminds me of my time spent based out of ORD.

Joeaksa 01-01-2008 09:20 AM

Scott,

There are some procedures on several FMS units that ARE incorrect. This came out several years ago when it turned out that the FMS memory was just not large enough to hold all the approaches and so the makers put one in and tried to cut corners to save memory. Forget the details but remember something like this.

Will be interesting to see what Jeff finds out... and I flew a Lear 60 for 3-4 years with Collins and Universal boxes.


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