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Battery 'kiss of life'?

I just bought the dreaded Audi Wagon[Its blue rather than black!] and after driving it home found the battery flat the next morning. Investigation showed no water---I put in about a quart/[litre] to cover the plates and trickle charged it overnight. Still struggles a bit to start the V6,but reads 13.2 volts
after standing for a while.
Anyone had any experience with additives to refurbish a battery?
I understand its phosphoric acid---the bottle is cheap enough, and just might save me the cost of a new battery.
[Incidentally ,I paid NZD$505.00 at Auction,thats USD $389.00!]

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If you can afford it, get the new battery. Nothing worse than being stranded somewhere. Your local parts store can test the unit and see how it reacts under full load. Usually that service is free.
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The battery regenerating stuff that the Brits use is EDTA (ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid), a chelating agent (Latin meaning a claw that grabs) to clean up the plates, but just buy a new battery. When batteries die its usually because of a lead sludge in the bottom of the battery that eats up the connections between the plates.
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Was that 13.2 volts with the engine off? No water sounds like a serious overcharge.
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When an old battery shortens internally, it will also burn off the water. Any new battery, even the cheapest one, is better than what's in there now, regardless on how you nurse it.

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By the way, lead-acid batteries electrolyte is sulphuric acid, not phosphoric acid...

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Aurel--I knew that!---do a bit of research!
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1986trou...36..387I
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Aurel--I knew that!---do a bit of research!
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1986trou...36..387I
Ok, my bad. It looks like a good additive to restore capacity or prevent capacity fade, but it won`t do anything to shorted electrodes. I bet you can find a new battery with H3PO4 already added if that is such a good additive.
If the battery self-discharges overnight, it is too far gone to be restored.

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I guess you could spend $50 in time, gas and materials to get six more months out of it. But why bother? If you were selling it fine, but aren't you keeping the car?
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I would suggest doing a voltmeter test with the car running...perhaps a voltage regulator bad causing the dry battery?
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When the plates are dry they heat up, warping and touching each other, which shorts them out.

Buy a new battery and be done with it.

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