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techweenie 01-06-2008 07:36 AM

While the neo-conned weren't looking...
 
The Bush administration is now allowing Mexico-based trucking companies to operate deep in the US.

Safety and security concerns are being ignored, as is the 'will of Congress.'

Just more administration kowtowing to the corporate drive to outsource... this time at the potential cost of quite a few moderate-pay jobs and smaller businesses.

Hopefully, some Bush supporter (there seems to be a concentration of them here on OT) will tell me why this is good.

Source: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24166.html

RickM 01-06-2008 07:37 AM

I think this has been going on for some time.

techweenie 01-06-2008 07:43 AM

There was a 20 or 25- mile restriction from the initial NAFTA agreement. The expansion of NAFTA concessions on our side under this administration is underreported.

kach22i 01-06-2008 07:46 AM

No one will give a damn until they make all the road signs in Spanish to accommodate the traffic.

sammyg2 01-06-2008 07:48 AM

Welcome to last year. Apparently you're the one who wasn't looking ;)

kach22i 01-06-2008 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3686327)
Welcome to last year. Apparently you're the one who wasn't looking ;)

Joking or serious?

I'm not in the SW, can you post a picture?

techweenie 01-06-2008 07:56 AM

It's not news to me, but probably is to 90% of the folks here. Faux News will never bring it up.

Nor will they bring up the extension of NAFTA into South America.

the 01-06-2008 07:58 AM

George Bush loves Mexicans.

kach22i 01-06-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the (Post 3686351)
George Bush loves Mexicans.

...and the dirty Sanchez.

Racerbvd 01-06-2008 08:09 AM

I *****ed about it when it 1st started, and I never stopped I also took time, more than once to let President Bush how strongly I feel against this BS!!!:mad:

kach22i 01-06-2008 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 3686379)
I *****ed about it when it 1st started, and I never stopped I also took time, more than once to let President Bush how strongly I feel against this BS!!!:mad:

..................so that's what a dirty Sanchez is.

Thought so.

Joeaksa 01-06-2008 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickM (Post 3686316)
I think this has been going on for some time.

The liberals have been hugging trees so much that they did not notice when this happened last year.

If you would watch a real news channel instead of CNN or CBS you might have seen. It was broadcast when it happened on FoxNews...

kach22i 01-06-2008 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 3686389)
The liberals have been hugging trees so much that they did not notice when this happened last year.

If you would watch a real news channel instead of CNN or CBS you might have seen. It was broadcast when it happened on FoxNews...

I missed it, must of been in church or at the shooting range.

Rick Lee 01-06-2008 08:22 AM

I heard about this a while ago too, but can't remember where I read it first, probably in the WSJ or Wash. Post. As long as those trucks are inspected at the border, what difference does it make whether they drive 25 miles or 1500 miles into the U.S.? I think when I first read about it, the main concern was about the safety of the trucks, as they are subject to different inspection regimes in Mexico than in the U.S. What's the big issue here, Techweenie? That you don't think it was reported on Fox? Or that you think conservatives here are supposed to have a knee-jerk, xenophobic reaction to a change in the 25 mile radius policy? I really don't see the big deal here. Bush was/is 110% wrong on the amnesty issue, which has little if anything to do with this issue.

speeder 01-06-2008 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 3686375)
...and the dirty Sanchez.

No, it's the Cleveland steamer for George. :cool:

Rick Lee 01-06-2008 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 3686475)
No, it's the Cleveland steamer for George. :cool:

Not to be confused with the Brown Tie or Angry Pirate.....arrrggghhhh.

96740 01-06-2008 09:56 AM

Faux News, General Betrayus, Neo-conned... That's so crafty. :rolleyes:

I'm beginning to wonder if your (Liberal) arguments are based on how well a crafty contortion of a word will sound.

techweenie 01-06-2008 10:17 AM

There are several reasons for concern, of course the ever-fearful neo-conned are sure that terrorists and their weapons are pouring across the border. Ordinary citizens might rightfully be concerned about the state of repair of the trucks coming onto our highway system as well as driving behavior... but another key concern -- or something that should be a concern -- is another wave of middle class incomes disappearing from the economy.

I know the neo-conned are empathy-challenged, but how dumb do you have to be to see that this is just another form of exporting jobs?

Just this week it was reported that the standard of living of Great Britain has now surpassed the US. The progressive disappearance of incomes that create the fabled 'middle class miracle' of this country is a major cause. If thousands of truckers lose their jobs and replace them with Walmart wages, what do you think happens to the network of businesses that depend on that chunk of now-disappeared income?

Last year, some of the usual suspects shrugged off the 'mortgage crisis' as if they were insulated. But a dropping tide lowers all the boats.

Rearden 01-06-2008 10:28 AM

Another fake but accurate story by Techweenie.

What really happened is Clinton signed NAFTA but failed to implement the provision to allow Mexican trucks to travel that far into the US (citing safety concerns). Bush continued with the Clinton program. Then Mexico protested and put the issue to a NAFTA tribunal in 2001. The tribunal ruled in Mexico's favor and ordered the US to allow NAFTA cross-border trucking services to travel deeper into the US. After much negotiating, this one-year pilot program was finally implemented in September 2007.

You can read about it here, on Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Sep09/0,4670,MexicoTrucks,00.html

techweenie 01-06-2008 10:59 AM

Fake but accurate. Wow. Says it all, doesn't it?

Faux News is the politboro for the Bush administration.

It's much harder to find the real story about Bush's expansion of NAFTA through its most recent evolution to the Security and Prosperity P...

http://americas.irc-online.org/am/4276


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