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kaisen 01-29-2008 05:09 AM

Guess this engine!
 
Here is the car, a 1929 Ford Model A:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201615649.jpg

Here is the engine, also by Ford:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201615678.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201615696.jpg

Hint: this car does 0-60mph in about 5 seconds :cool:

notfarnow 01-29-2008 05:18 AM

Ardun OHC?

kaisen 01-29-2008 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfarnow (Post 3734823)
Ardun OHC?

Ardun (Zora Arkus-Duntov, later of Corvette fame) created hemi-head conversions for Ford flathead V8's.

This is a DOHC four cylinder.

Mo_Gearhead 01-29-2008 05:25 AM

Ford Escort BDA twin cam by Cosworth

Revs above 8K @250 HP

(Check the front license!)

notfarnow 01-29-2008 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 3734835)
Ardun (Zora Arkus-Duntov, later of Corvette fame) created hemi-head conversions for Ford flathead V8's.

This is a DOHC four cylinder.


OK, I thought Ardun also made 4 pot heads

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead (Post 3734836)
Ford Escort BDA twin cam by Cosworth

Revs above 8K @250 HP

(Check the front license!)

HA! 250hp would be "interesting" on wood spoke wheels!

Porsche_monkey 01-29-2008 05:30 AM

Cortina GT?

beepbeep 01-29-2008 05:45 AM

Looks like masked Cosworth 16v head. Belt goes wide so there are twin pulleys underneath.

Mule 01-29-2008 05:57 AM

Are those drag radials on those wood spokes?

kaisen 01-29-2008 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo_Gearhead (Post 3734836)
Ford Escort BDA twin cam by Cosworth

Revs above 8K @250 HP

(Check the front license!)

Of course you're correct, and yes the plate and my file names gave it away. It has a rally-spec 250hp BDA Cosworth from a Ford Escort Group 4 rally car. They did a great job making it look 'period correct' even though it is a fuel-injected computer-controlled modern engine.

Here is video of the beast: http://www.mat.fi/video_aford.htm

Here is a photo gallery: http://www.mat.fi/project1929fordmodel-a.htm

Mäkelä Auto Tuning of Finland built this car for a (no-doubt wealthy) client.
Check out the photos; the engineering and craftsmanship are amazing.

TimothyFarrar 01-29-2008 06:13 AM

Awesome sleeper.

Here is what the actual model A motor looked like,

http://www.antiqueenginerebuilding.c...s/engine_a.jpg
http://www.antiqueenginerebuilding.c...s/engine_b.jpg

You might be surprised to know how many model A's there are on the road still, not bad for a late 1920's vehicle.

The model A connecting rods had a babbitted bearing, were created from a 2 part forging, complete with an oil scoop on the cap for "splash fed" oiling. I worked on the design and manufacturing for a modern aftermarket replacement rod with a shell bearing. Comes in multiple variations for two types of pistons, and one without the scoop for pressure fed conversion motors.

http://www.connectingrod.com/img/engineering.jpg

chapo 01-29-2008 07:43 AM

The wheels were custom made aluminum painted to look like wood. It is in this months Hot Rod. Lots of cool features, check it out

kstar 01-29-2008 08:34 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/389873-cosworth.html

Aerkuld 01-29-2008 09:08 AM

I was reading this artical as one of the guys in the office sent it to me. The guy who did that car even put a mis-fire circuit in there that he could switch on and off. When in mis-fire mode it would cut every third spark so it sounded like an old timer. That car is super cool!

Here's the page...

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0803w_1929_model_a_touring_car/index.html

kaisen 01-29-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chapo (Post 3735091)
The wheels were custom made aluminum painted to look like wood. It is in this months Hot Rod. Lots of cool features, check it out

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201633106.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1201633263.jpg

Very cool

onewhippedpuppy 01-29-2008 10:04 AM

Simply insane craftsmanship. Just unreal.

According to Hot Rod, the owner is an annonymous Finnish former WRC driver who found the car during a 1993 rally in Argentina. Who would that be?

VincentVega 01-29-2008 10:15 AM

Anyone ever driven a stock Model A? There seem to be a few around for not much $$. Are they practical to drive on the weekends, or are they best left in some one else's garage?

Porsche_monkey 01-29-2008 10:17 AM

Brakes were always an issue on Models A's. But you can make a nice weekend driver that would hold it's value.

onewhippedpuppy 01-29-2008 10:22 AM

Grandfather has 5 or 6 normal Model A's. Great for putting around the countryside at 30-40 MPH, somewhat scary when you go much faster. Not exactly a "driver's car".;)

VincentVega 01-29-2008 10:58 AM

Quote:

30-40 MPH
Ouch, not sure that would get the job done.

Walter_Middie 01-29-2008 11:04 AM

A good friend of mine restores and shows Model A's. I went for a drive with him a couple of weeks ago in one of his cars. It's all stock except for a high compression head, overdrive, and banded brake drums. It cruises at 60 mph very comfortably, and the brakes work great with the bands that keep them from expanding when they get hot. I was amazed at how easily it cruised on the freeway - I thought they were slow rattle traps - I was completely wrong.


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