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Fuel Mileage: what are my choices.

I have got to ask. I drive a 2003 Discovery as my Daily Driver. It was my wife's and when she changed cars I took it over. It has been a very enjoyable ride which handled the mean streets of Philadelphia quite nicely. My issue is gas mileage. It is a PIG. This week I spent $140. on gas. I am considering making a change to an 30 mile per gallon economy commuter. I would still like some utility. I also would like some cool..... any pelican ideas? My view is to make the move while the discovery still has some value.

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I say you're looking at around $15K for your Disco. The bad news is that almost all of the sport-ute's and small trucks out there get around the same milage as your Disco (15-20mpg).

My suggestion: Subaru
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The era of the SUV is closing. Save the cool for the Porsche on weekends. Utility? Have have loaded my 2X lumber and bags of concrete mix into my corolla no problem!
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Honda Civic HX (entry level version)? 40 something per gal combined, I think? Not a hybrid. Well built.

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The choices are pretty limited when you are talking about utility and 30 mpg. Small wagons probably fit the bill. Cool factor with these cars is low in my opinion. But, if you can adjust your mindset maybe frugal, cost effective, reliable can be interpreted as "cool".

Kia, Suzuki, Scion, Mazda, and others make nice looking, well equipped small wagons that offer some utility for the occasional trip to the lumber yard, or garden center. A small trailer just adds to the utility. Most of these cars are rated at around 30 mpg highway.

If it were me, I'd buy an Acura RSX Type S from about 2005 or so. Fun to drive, well built, reasonable utility.

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Honda Civic HX (entry level version)? 40 something per gal combined, I think? Not a hybrid. Well built.

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Opinions of the Honda "Fit" 31/gallon combined or the Mazda 5 MPG @ 28/gallon combined.

Just disappointed in the mileage of both. I like the utility nature w/ Euro flare.
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Before we got the Jetta Diesel, (50 mpg ), we looked real hard at a Mazda 3S. Useful room with the hatch, good power with the 2.3l and handled very well. Downside for us? Only 35 mpg and a rust warrenty that was only 5 years vs the VW's 12 years. (We kept the last one for 12 1/2 years.)

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BMW X3 with diesel twin turbo is coming in Fall 2008

450 lbs of Torque and 30mpg highway sounds nice
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BMW X3 with diesel twin turbo is coming in Fall 2008

450 lbs of Torque and 30mpg highway sounds nice

That would be perfect for my wife. She has a leased 525xi and wants a X3. She misses the height of the Disco.

Jetta and Golfs or Rabbits are on my list. I can't get my mind around the Prius except that it gets impressive mileage @ 60 / gallon!
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I have had three water cooled VWs; two Golfs and a Jetta Tdi. The only one that was decent was the '86 Golf. The other two were in the shop 4 to 6 times a year. The Tdi was the worst in that it stranded my wife and me with our three kids on a busy road, on a blind curve. We nearly got hit by multiple RVs until a good Samaritan pulled us to a turnout. The car suffered from multiple glow plug failures, MAF sensor failures (two), wiring harness failures, window lifts, interior fell apart (literally the headliner and other trim bits just fell down). The only good I ca say is it got good mileage (circa 50 mpg) when it was running.

VWs have the worst reliability according to Consumer Reports. I recommend that you avoid them until they can fix their issues.

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Honda Accord is perfect for me as a pickup truck that does not look like a truck. Lasts forever and gets descent mileage as well as you can sell them anytime you are tired of it for 90% what you paid for it.
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When is the Subaru flat-4 turbodiesel supposed to arrive in North America? That is going to be a BIG winner.
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I have had three water cooled VWs; two Golfs and a Jetta Tdi. The only one that was decent was the '86 Golf. The other two were in the shop 4 to 6 times a year. The Tdi was the worst in that it stranded my wife and me with our three kids on a busy road, on a blind curve. We nearly got hit by multiple RVs until a good Samaritan pulled us to a turnout. The car suffered from multiple glow plug failures, MAF sensor failures (two), wiring harness failures, window lifts, interior fell apart (literally the headliner and other trim bits just fell down). The only good I ca say is it got good mileage (circa 50 mpg) when it was running.

VWs have the worst reliability according to Consumer Reports. I recommend that you avoid them until they can fix their issues.

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This what I've generally read online about newer VWs. What year was the TDI? Of course I want to hear someone tell me that they've gotten better recently, 'cause I really want to buy one. FWIW, my Mom has had 3 New Beetles since they came out w/o any major QC issues that I am aware of, but she trades them in w/o a lot of miles to get the newer/fancier one.

Luke, that LR Discovery is one of the least efficient vehicles ever sold in modern times in terms of dollars spent on fuel+maintainence versus what it returns in performance or cargo volume. Good off-road capabilities, (which 99+% of owners never use), but they burn fuel like a moving van.

The Prius is not a great OTR vehicle, (diesel is better and I like roadtrips), but as an around-town or commuter vehicle they are hard to beat, IMO. You will absolutely be driving the opposite of the Discovery, a super-efficient, cool modern technology car w/ TONS of room inside that returns arguably the most cool-factor and performance from a gallon of gas on the road. They've been selling them long enough w/ millions of miles travelled to ascertain their great QC and typical Toyota durability, and factoring in resale it is probably the cheapest new car in the world to own, at least among anything I'd actually drive.
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When is the Subaru flat-4 turbodiesel supposed to arrive in North America? That is going to be a BIG winner.
The waiting line for that would stretch around the world if it's a cool car priced right. And I'd be in that line.
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I just bought a 944S for a race car project. Pretty nice car, with lots of room under the rear hatch. Much better on gas than my full-size truck.

I may use it as a driver for a while before turnong it into a race car.
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Thanks for the input......

It is hard getting rid of a paid for vehicle...mechanically the Disco has been great and for my family you can not beat the practicality. It was the perfect vacation vehicle. I just do not think gas is going to come down and I am trying to embrace smaller cars.

Pruis makes a ton of sense and has 4 doors but it has gotten a bit pricey
CooperS tons of cool but also pricey and not long on practicality
944s and 924s very cool great value but what kind of mileage?
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While not a winner in the "utility" category, our 07' A4 2.0T gets around 34~36 around town, and it sure does plow though the snow. All that and I don't have to drive a Honda.

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