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Christien 02-04-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 3747320)
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Originally Posted by sammyg2
I've been called the mother duck
you might want to get your hearing checked.

Barely February and we have a post of the year candidate already! Best laugh I've had in days!!!! Thanks!

NICKG 02-04-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidB911 (Post 3745328)
Hello Pelicaners. In the past few months I have been looking for work without any luck (hence the post). There isn't much of anything in this region as far as interesting jobs or a job where I'm qualified. I was just wondering if anyone had a job or two that I could do. I do anything instead of moving home like I probably will have to in a few months. :(

For what its worth, I've always loved Porsches and there hasn't been another to take her place.:D

don't feel bad, I am looking for a part time deal at night or weekends...just nothing out there

911Rob 02-04-2008 11:36 AM

David,
Finding work is simple; getting paid for work, well that's another matter.

Pick the spot you want to work.
Find out who the first person is that arrives at that spot, and what time do they get there.
Show up there everyday before that person, dressed appropriately, ready to work. (early)
Be the first one there everyday.

Let the hiring person know that you will work for a lower salary to start, just to prove that you can do the job better than anyone else. Ask them for a 3 month retroactive review of your performance and skills.

Do this for one week.
Pick three top jobs you want, go to #1 first; then 2 and 3. Should cover your mornings.
Go Getters are hard to find, my bet is you get the job on day 3.

I've NEVER had anyone who did this, not succeed.
Be ambitious, confident and energetic..... and go get your job.

Porsche-O-Phile 02-04-2008 12:25 PM

Geez, if someone did that around here I'd think they were a stalker or casing out the joint to steal our computers and schit. I'd probably call the cops. :)

911Rob 02-04-2008 08:33 PM

Jeff,
All my life I've performed in the top 1%
I wouldn't expect 80% of the people to understand the concept (80/20 rule)
It works, unlike most people.

Go for it David, give it a try.
What do you have to lose, but some sleep?

onewhippedpuppy 02-05-2008 04:34 AM

Hopefully David is too busy with all his interviews to read the good advice posted here.

notfarnow 02-05-2008 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 911Rob (Post 3747766)
David,
Finding work is simple; getting paid for work, well that's another matter.

Pick the spot you want to work.
Find out who the first person is that arrives at that spot, and what time do they get there.
Show up there everyday before that person, dressed appropriately, ready to work. (early)
Be the first one there everyday.

ha ha this brings back memories. I did exactly that in Montreal when I was 23. There was a car dealership I wanted to work at. I just showed up every monday & friday, saying I was ready to go. By the third visit I was bringing coffee and having chats with the owner, building a rapport. The second friday he told me to pack a lunch for monday.

Looking back, it's almost funny that I got so worked up lobbying for a job I wouldn't even consider doing now, but man it was great experience. I had a great year there, and still visit when I go up to Montreal.

DavidB911 02-05-2008 05:52 AM

I've had many interviews, but it always seems like they always choose the other guy. Maybe having no one is better than me. :o I was just wondering what was available in the rest of the US. If there was a strong opportunity somewhere else, then I would/will look into it.

By the way, what is wrong with my english?? I know i'm not an English major, but its a lot better than what it was a few years ago.

Porsche-O-Phile 02-05-2008 05:57 AM

[GrammarNaziMode=ON]

"it's" = contraction for "it is"
"I" = personal noun for the self

So in your above post instead of saying, "I know i'm not an English major, but its a lot better than what it was a few years ago", say "I know I'm not an English major, but it's a lot better than it was a few years ago".

[GrammarNaziMode=OFF]

Just busting your nuts a bit (I know this is just an Internet forum).

Seriously though - work on the verbal representation. You wouldn't believe how many resumes I've automatically "round filed" because of a misspelling or grammatical mistake. I don't care if you have good credentials - I want someone with good credentials who can bring them to bear on his/her work - and a resume is a first glimpse of whether or not they have the ability/willingness to do so.

The thing that Rob suggested earlier still seems WAY over-the-top/creepy/stalker-ish to me, but one thing I've observed (particularly in Southern California) is that increasingly, young people give less and less of a damn about their jobs. Simply showing up on time and acting like you give a schit will put you ahead of 95% of the pack these days. It shouldn't be that way (it used to be that the "minimum standards" assumed these) but no longer. Just an FYI.

Top priority is BE RELIABLE. That doesn't just mean "be on time". I can always buy "good" talent, I can't buy "reliable" talent. Either a person is reliable or they're not - regardless of their skills, and unfortunately an employer can't really find out if he's gotten "one of the good ones" until the person is hired. You can call references, but those are only so reliable for evaluating one's dependability ahead of time.

onewhippedpuppy 02-05-2008 06:46 AM

Sell yourself my friend. Confidence is huge in an interview. Your post above is totally lacking anything vaguely resembling confidence. Prep for it, become familiar with the company so you can ask informed questions. Don't give BS canned answers, engage your interviewers in a conversation. I've been offered every job I've interviewed for, so I'm not totally full of it.

What does your resume look like? Is it based on accomplishments, or tasks? To sell yourself, you need to show employers why you are of value to them, not just a task list. For an ME with one year experience, it needs to be one page. Put the absolute most important stuff at the top, don't list every class you've taken, and don't list hobbies or activities. Make it to the point, and lead descriptions with action words. For the love of God, make sure the grammar and formatting is good. If you want a critique, copy and paste it on here, or get an intelligent friend to look at it.

After that, if you're interested in moving, apply here:
hawkerbeechcraft.com
boeing.com
spiritaerosystems.com
learjet.com
cessna.com

Every single one of those companies are hiring, hardcore. So long as your resume isn't crap, I'd bet money that you'll have multiple companies willing to fly you to Wichita for an interview. In the case of Boeing, you could have the chance to work in any number of locations in the USA. Each one will require you to fill out a profile on their website and submit your resume. Be sure you look through the job postings, and apply to every one you feel meets your qualifications. It's a pain, but so is job shopping.


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