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- supposed to come in low... very low, as in UNDER the defense radar systems my guess is that the variable wings help with dealing with ground effects
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![]() Ground effects start at most a wingspan above ground from what I understand. It is pretty tough to do that kind of hedge hopping at 500mph or more. I suspect it is for the same reasons the F14 had the swing wings- it reduces stall speed and allows better dogfighting amongst other things.
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and that is why the have a special terrain following radar
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first off, for both of you guys, it's "ground effect" ...not plural. secondly, that airplane is not flying that fast while in ground effect. ground effect on a jet like that would be around the 20-30 ft AGL range. forward looking radar for that? nah....
the reason for a swept wing is simple. better manueverability while subsonic, higher cruising speed while sonic. the best of both worlds. random transportation picture: ![]()
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In the case of the Tornado the swing wing was to allow this low alt/ high speed performance and a smooth ride... with good low speed for landing. The F3 version (pictured) was an interceptor version, with poor (relatively) dogfighting performance and marginal high alt ability... certainly an F4 was a 'better' fighter in that regard, with the F16/15 several orders more able.
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