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dd74 02-27-2008 09:32 PM

Helluva a flyby...
 
Cool trick, but was it worth the pilot's job? :rolleyes:

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Story:
http://gizmodo.com/360301/pilot-gets-fired-after-extremely-low-flyby-in-brand+new-boeing-777

...and the alleged moronic pilot...
http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/...ouarefired.jpg

aap1966 02-27-2008 09:46 PM

Obviously unfamiliar with the French experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kHa3WNerjU

island911 02-27-2008 10:19 PM

Yeah, I still don't get why that was a problem.

Jeff Alton 02-27-2008 10:34 PM

Maybe Joe, Jess or Scott could chime in, but I think ripping up the departure or arrival airport is standard fare on a delivery flight...... :)


I have more than one letter on my file for inducing/suggesting similar operations.....

Cheers

MFAFF 02-28-2008 12:21 AM

It might be 'tradition' but doing so without asking the 'right' people is always going make life difficult..

It would appear that the 'right' people's permission was not sought....and the 'right' people in this case may well have nothing to do with the location of the fly by or flying rules and regs...but may have been in another location.. possibly in the Far East...;)

They are possibly more concerned with appearances than safety....

cgarr 02-28-2008 04:58 AM

Thats too bad, Its funny but most times when I go into a controlled field the tower will ask if I could do a fly by, many have asked, and I have buzzed the tower before, right by the window, never a problem here. But then it was in a 1918 SE5a

MFAFF 02-28-2008 05:36 AM

I think the tower and 'people' in the a/c were OK with it.. but home plate, when they saw the youtube vids and pics were les impressed...

cgarr 02-28-2008 05:54 AM

Here is a clip of the test pilot rolling a 707 in its test stages, ahhh the good ole days!

http://www.madskies.com/99/rolling-707/

Jeff Alton 02-28-2008 07:15 AM

The aircraft needed a clearance to do that from ATC, so it is safe to say that the tower was okay with it......

Cheers

SXSMAN 02-28-2008 08:01 AM

I don't have sound on the puter here at work .

Wondering if it was an aborted landing ( note landing gear ) .

Guess I'll replay at home .

SxS

Tim Hancock 02-28-2008 08:28 AM

Around here, the standard procedure for a "zoomie" is to call out a "missed approach" thus requiring a "go around". ;)

JeremyD 02-28-2008 09:22 AM

Negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.

Porsche-O-Phile 02-28-2008 09:28 AM

A retired PanAm captain I know used to tell me stories of long, boring trans-Alaska flights in DC-9s (before he flew for PanAm) where they'd entertain themselves by getting about 20' off the deck and chasing caribou.

Supposedly a guy he knew actually had to SPIN a 707 during certification too. Great stuff if true.

Joeaksa 02-28-2008 09:32 AM

Political BS going on here. Everyone approved but evidently he had not asked the companies permission so they canned him. He is appealing the decision...

911/914gary 02-28-2008 11:13 AM

Last commercial aircraft delivery from the Douglas Long Beach (now Boeing) facility. Flew by like a fighter making a strafing run followed by the traditional rocking of the wings.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1204229548.jpg

MRM 02-28-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 3797054)
Thats too bad, Its funny but most times when I go into a controlled field the tower will ask if I could do a fly by, many have asked, and I have buzzed the tower before, right by the window, never a problem here. But then it was in a 1918 SE5a


Were the heck did you get a Scouting Experimental? Was it surplus in the US before the war ended or did it make the trip across the pond twice? Inquiring minds want to know!

cgarr 02-28-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 3797843)
Were the heck did you get a Scouting Experimental? Was it surplus in the US before the war ended or did it make the trip across the pond twice? Inquiring minds want to know!


I wish it was original!! Its a replica I built back in the 80's

Tobra 02-28-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarr (Post 3797150)
Here is a clip of the test pilot rolling a 707 in its test stages, ahhh the good ole days!

http://www.madskies.com/99/rolling-707/

saw a clip of a 747 doing a roll one time

Tim Hancock 02-28-2008 11:31 AM

A guy I used to hangar with was a corporate pilot. He had a little Grumman Yankee and one year he decided to invite an old WWII pilot to ride with him to the Oshkosh fly-in for a day. They flew direct across Lake Michigan and the corporate guy let the WWII guy fly while he took a nap. The WWII guy got bored and figured since they were beyond gliding distance from shore, he dropped down on the deck. A little later, the corporate pilot awoke to find they were just off the water in the middle of Lake Michigan!

I myself will not fly SEL over large expanses of water, but the corporate guy was not happy that day I can assure you.

kimlangley7 02-28-2008 06:09 PM

Back in 82 or so we had a SR-71 make a "emergency" landing at McDill AFB, FL. He was doing a recce of the Faucklands and something went "wong with the aircraft and Mc Dill was the closest AFB to put her down..

They quickly put it {SR-71] in one of the hangers.. [red rope of death around it] .. but within 2 days everyone knew it was there > maintenence guys flew in > fixed the SR and base paper announced when it would depart Mc Dill..

Departure day .. the "haboo" took off > to the south > no nose abatement requirements to the south... he did a slow pass over the base ... and lined it up over the runway at maybe 100 ft >> and lit the burners.....

Incredible.... just incredible..... he just zoomed down the runway > and at the end > pulled the nose up into probablly a 60 degree climb .... and climbed and climbed .. until he was out of sight....

varmint 03-01-2008 11:39 PM

http://www.linkinn.com/_Plane_Explosion_Over_Pacific_Ocean



F-14, somebody want to start speculating as to what went wrong?

Porsche-O-Phile 03-02-2008 03:39 AM

One way or another, it'll be blamed on pilot error.

javadog 03-02-2008 04:21 AM

Maybe not. See below.

JR

Joeaksa 03-02-2008 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 3802784)
In fact, it was. The pilot survived that one but not the next time he crashed an F-14.

JR

More info pls?

javadog 03-02-2008 06:46 AM

He was doing a flyby of a ship in a carrier battle group, and was near supersonic, at low altitude, and had the plane in a hard turn. At the time, the engines used in the F14-A had problems with compressor stalls in high angle-of attack, high speed, high air density conditions. Other sources claim a problem with the oiling system on one of the engines. Not sure the Navy ever figured it out. He ejected and was rescued, along with his RIO.

JR

Edited to correct some factual errors. There are a couple conflicting accounts of this incident floating around the net, confusing the crashes of two different jets flown by different pilots.

javadog 03-02-2008 07:05 AM

Here's an account by the pilot:

"I was the pilot in the front seat of the jet which is featured on the video, and here’s what really happened:

My RIO and I launched on a mission to fly low-altitude high-speed fly by’s of the USS JPJ. Our mission was to give the JPJ an airborne target to detect, track, classify, and simulate launch against. We departed the airspace of the USS Lincoln and were “handed off” to the JPJ for their control. We were operating in a clear sector and were working with another VF-213 aircraft which was assigned the same mission. Basically, we and the other aircraft were taking turns making low altitude passes by the JPJ, all for the benefit of their training.

On our first fly by of the JPJ, something went wrong right as I initiated a climbing right hand turn, up and away from the ship. Lacking any better explanation the aircraft “blew up.” The accident board fixed blame on a problem with one of the engine’s oil systems. They found this possible cause in a statistical search of Navy Safety Center mishap records. However, neither they, nor I, nor anyone else knows exactly what went wrong. At the time of the mishap we were around 800 feet and were traveling 600+ knots.

My RIO initiated ejection somewhere around two seconds after our aircraft spontaneously combusted. We were tumbling wildly out of control, perilously low, and there was fire all around us. Fortunately, my RIO’s quick actions saved both of our lives. By the grace of God we survived, and although we both suffered burns his were far worse than mine---his seat in the aircraft being closer to the source of fire.

The JPJ steamed smartly over to where we were bobbing in the water, comfortably sitting in our grotesquely small rafts. At that moment of the incident we were not enjoying the feeling of salt water on fresh burns. The JPJ launched a motor whale boat, got us out of the water, and took us aboard the JPJ for some quick first aid and a short visit with some of the crew. A helo from the Lincoln was dispatched. It picked us up and flew us back to the carrier where we spent the next few days under the microscope of a comprehensive physical evaluation and many, many hours of mishap board interviews. I thank God for the video tape which documented the incident. Without it I was going to have trouble explaining why we failed to bring our $30mil jet back to the carrier with us."


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